What intercooler for GTI?

[LunchboxVRS]

My next addition for the polo is a new intercooler. I have only found two. that being from APR and the forge.

Forge Motorsport | Alloy Fabrication

APR - High Performance Development for Audi, VW and Porsche Vehicles.

The APR version is pretty straight forward. Dyno graphs show results and all the details are laid out and it looks the goods but at near on $1700 is pretty expensive ( but with all things you pay for what you get)

The forge version looks nothing flash and there's not much detail in the description I could find. Dyno graph is in Bhp and no mention how its run. It has a increase of 10+ hp compared to APR,s 9-11kw. But it's half the price £399 plus £180 postage.
Comes to around $850 landed.

Thoughts? Anyone got a forge front mount? I have read some reviews from other vw versions running forge intercooler a and it seems mixed depending on car.

For those with the APR cooler I'd really like to know how it affects fuel consumption in the heat. On my drive to work early morning with a clean run with the temp at 10-15 degrees I get 5.5l per 100km. The same clean run home at over 25 degrees yields over 8L per 100 km.

[BLN355]

I'll let you know on the fuel consumption once I fit my APR.


Maybe contact PWR and see if they can knock something up for you

[Lucas_R]

Holy hell the stock intercooler is TINY on these Polo's.

Honestly, both will do the job just fine - it depends on your budget and how much you are willing to spend. In regards to fuel consumption i havent noticed any difference at all from my stock intercooler to my aftermarket one.

[Deadpool]

$1700 is massive amount for an Intercooler. Is there really only two options to choose from for the 6R?

Lucas, they look smaller than the bloody Twintercoolers.

[LunchboxVRS]

$1700 is massive amount for an Intercooler.

Is there really only two options to choose from for the 6R?

That's all I found. Could be more but its getting them to Aus at a reasonable price that's the issue.

[Lucas_R]

More options:

Intercooler Maggiorato Vw Polo GTI 1.4 TSI Audi A1 1.4 TSI 185cv - Race Wars

http://www.hg-motorsport.de/shop/product_info.php/language/en/info/p27070_VW-Polo-6R--GTI-1-4-TSI-Front-Ladeluftkuehler.html/XTCsid/gubrvdgncs9aar5mfnf16v9490

good or bad offer (exhaust/intake/intercooler) | m.VAGOC.co.uk

http://www.vagoc.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=9622&showall=1

[LunchboxVRS]

More options:

Intercooler Maggiorato Vw Polo GTI 1.4 TSI Audi A1 1.4 TSI 185cv - Race Wars

HG-Motorsport - VW Polo 9N 1,8T FMIC intercooler kit frontmounted VW Polo 6R GTI / Skoda Fabia RS 1,4 TSI FMIC Interccoler Kit HGICKVAG024

good or bad offer (exhaust/intake/intercooler) | m.VAGOC.co.uk

Intercooler Options | VAGOC.co.uk

The first one won't send to aus.

HG Is not direct fit. Needs some cutting around the pipes and half of it is blocked behind the cross bar. Seems way to big for the little polo. The price for shipping the HG unit is outrages. I was told €380. The cooler is only €100 more.
But thanks.

[LunchboxVRS]

More options:

Intercooler Maggiorato Vw Polo GTI 1.4 TSI Audi A1 1.4 TSI 185cv - Race Wars

HG-Motorsport - VW Polo 9N 1,8T FMIC intercooler kit frontmounted VW Polo 6R GTI / Skoda Fabia RS 1,4 TSI FMIC Interccoler Kit HGICKVAG024

good or bad offer (exhaust/intake/intercooler) | m.VAGOC.co.uk

Intercooler Options | VAGOC.co.uk

The first one won't send to aus.

HG Is not direct fit. Needs some cutting around the pipes and half of it is blocked behind the cross bar. Seems way to big for the little polo. The price for shipping the HG unit is outrages. I was told €380. The cooler is only €100 more.
But thanks.

[gavs]

What intercooler for GTI?

If you speak to the uk guys, HP are "stupid" with their stepped core design but it's no surprise that's what they say when APR UK are developing their own intercooler. As I pointed out to them, the proof is in the dyno graphs and real world performance in Australian conditions. A few of the local 9n Polo Gti owners have swapped out their forge intercoolers for Seat Sport ones instead, speaks volumes to me. The twintercooler option seems interesting to me because I logged temps with the factory cooler and they were horrendous after a repeatable 30km, 100kph run. On an 18 degree day I saw temps up around the 40's. Forge then take that air, send it around a corner into another cooler (which blocks off more radiator space) with no evidence in relation to pressure drop/vs flow etc.

Look, it's up to you but fuel economy gains aren't going to offset the purchase price. It's going to give you better heat dissipation after heat soak that's after 5 mind idling...


That's after 1 km at 60 kph.

Yes my fuel economy dropped but it was done in conjunction with the ecu tune.

[LunchboxVRS]

So which one do you have gavs or are you still running stock (and what tune). I'm going to replace it for the heat dissipation and other gains anyway just wanted to see what fuel gains where out there as well (at least I can recoup some fuel funds to appease the treasurer). Tune will follow if not before as soon as the local guy is free. I didn't find the twintercooler.

I had a similar design in my liberty. The cross bar was right through the guts of the front inlet so it was basically two coolers. One above. One below and it just flowed through the bottom one and up to the top. Had massive gains over stock but that's not hard going from a top mount. I had upgraded the top mount first with good gains but the the front mount was another leap. And compared to my mates with a blitz one piece front mount and the same moods my lag was less and power up. But different cars react differently. Especially when the turbo was three times the size of the polos.

[gavs]

What intercooler for GTI?

I have a Harding performance cooler. With these cars the induced lag of the intercooler is basically nil because with the dsg, the ecu sends the ignition cut signal to retard spark, that's the dsg 'fart' everyone talks about. This is good because it means there is no lag between gear changes because the intake butterfly doesn't close on accelerative gear changes so the blower and turbo don't have to rebuild boost pressure in the intercooler. The killer thorough with aftermarket is flow. You can whack a HG motorsports fence in the front of your car with a 150% increase in volume but if the thing doesn't match the flow or better still, increase it then it's pointless, your just going to strain the engine so it will just suck hot air through the path of least resistance and that whopping great intercooler is doing squat. This is why I think personally that for this engine the Harding performance cooler is the best. Bigger surface area without restricting radiator surface area, 60% greater volume with 6% greater airflow than stock. The end tanks are fabricated but so what, the performance speaks for itself and besides, they're covered in beautiful TIG welds.

[LunchboxVRS]

Nice, HP,s the go then. I don't like that HG cooler it just looks nasty to begin with and being so tall the flow up high in the core would be stuff all so would be a waste and like you said block the radiator.

[yokom46]

Winter will arrive before I can afford that HP cooler.

Winter is also fine by me. Bring on the dense cold air

[readerr0r]

Out of curiosity, does the HP price include install?

[BLN355]

Out of curiosity, does the HP price include install?

Nah mate thats another $400 or so on top unless you have stands/room and tools