Polo GTi Future and Reliability

[Coolio]

I guess that's where it becomes six of one and half a dozen of the other. Say you received your car first quarter 2012 and the twin charged setup was replaced with a single turbo 1.4 mid year, resale of twincharged 1.4 cars may take a hit in the immediate timeframe following the introduction of the new engine. In 3+ years time it shouldn't make much difference though. What it may mean is that the odd person selling their 1,500km old 1.4 twincharged engine might get 28k instead of the seemingly unrealistic prices they are being advertised for now (including dealer demos and whatnot). But three years down the track, a twincharged 1.4 may have additional resale value over an equivalent single turbo unit, given how excited people seem to be by the technology. And like you say, you know the engine isn't going to be worse, so not having test driven it shouldn't be tooooo much of a concern. That's how i am trying to look at it anyway.

[kaanage]

I serious doubt VW will abandon the twin charge engine within the lifetime of the 6R Polo - this includes any mid-life cosmetic update. What I do doubt is whether they will develop it further than it already has been or continue to use it when the next round of platforms is introduced.

Since the 6R platform is relatively new, I wouldn't worry about depreciation - the normal age based and platform based depreciation will far outweigh any shift in engine technology.

The 6R Polo that I would be worried about is the TDi - I can see a major engine revision taking place in the not too distant future because of the poor DPF implementation and its ensuing consequences on performance, economy and drivability.

[pologti18t]

Who said VW would replace the 1.4 twincharger with a 1.4 turbo? The basic engine hiding under the twincharger mechanism is a fairly old design. There is every chance that VW could replace it (the high performance version) with a brand new design 1.6L twin scroll turbo.

[Coolio]

Who said VW would replace the 1.4 twincharger with a 1.4 turbo? The basic engine hiding under the twincharger mechanism is a fairly old design. There is every chance that VW could replace it (the high performance version) with a brand new design 1.6L twin scroll turbo.

No one as far as i know, my comment about that was just for example only. That could be written as an x.xL engine of any aspiration type. I was talking more about the affect of an engine change from the 1.4 twincharger to whatever vw deems appropriate on resale values, and given they are likely to be roughly equivalent in terms of power and consumption i don't see any real downsides either way.

[pologti18t]

No one as far as i know, my comment about that was just for example only. That could be written as an x.xL engine of any aspiration type. I was talking more about the affect of an engine change from the 1.4 twincharger to whatever vw deems appropriate on resale values, and given they are likely to be roughly equivalent in terms of power and consumption i don't see any real downsides either way.

You would expect a major drivetrain change to coincide with a facelift etc.

[Coolio]

I'm not sure with VW...they are hardly known for falcodore-like "series 2" nip and tucks.

[yas786]

5,400 kms and nothing to report. All good.

[Buller_Scott]

I'm not sure with VW...they are hardly known for falcodore-like "series 2" nip and tucks.

lol.... yes they are.

the 6n polo superceded by the 6n2, the 9n polo superceded by the 9n3, the mk6 golf which everyone knows is really just a mk5.5, the new caddy which even has the same chassis designation as the previous one (2kn, meaning that aftermarket suspension mods are the same for both models)

[JaneAusten]

Just went over 8000 km on my GTI, besides becoming more and more efficient, it's the same as the day it left the dealership.

[Coolio]

lol.... yes they are.

the 6n polo superceded by the 6n2, the 9n polo superceded by the 9n3, the mk6 golf which everyone knows is really just a mk5.5, the new caddy which even has the same chassis designation as the previous one (2kn, meaning that aftermarket suspension mods are the same for both models)

I bow to your superior knowledge sir! Must remember im not at uni and can't just make sh*t up anymore

[aljobar]

When I take delivery of my GTI, I'm going straight to APR for an intercooler and intake. That should cool things down and help reliability. At least that's how I'm justifying it. Deep down it's just for better performance when I reflash it, reliability be damned.

[Buller_Scott]

I bow to your superior knowledge sir! Must remember im not at uni and can't just make sh*t up anymore

lol im sorry if my message read as "you're wrong and im right!" (i can see how it might have), but yeah, i know what you mean. vw mightn't do the ford / holden thing of "just change the headlights and the side skirts and give the car a whole new model designation" quite as obviously as ford / holden, but they do it in their own way

When I take delivery of my GTI, I'm going straight to APR for an intercooler and intake.

orly? if it were my car, i'd be taking it STRAIGHT to GIAC or DNA. melbourne's last dyno day saw GIAC cars posting better figures than ''other'' tunes, for better money, and if you decide to go down the modding path GIAC will actually work with your mods to find a tuning solution (as opposed to what some people have experienced with "other" brands: "huh? why would you do that? it's not even on our menu of mods so sure, go ahead and do it if you want, but we wont be providing a tune to match your mod - you're on your own, pal". (just regurgitating some others' word-of-mouth experiences).

as for DNA, peeps at the melbourne dyno day will attest to just how fugging smooth the DNA power curve is. mod wise... well, John (username dna tuning on this site) has a pretty gnarly twin k04'd audi s4 - working with new engine mods is NOT something that is news to him

[aljobar]

I know there are other, possibly better tuners out there, but first of all I don't want my car to be a testbed. I'm also happy to settle for less because being Brisbane based, a 10 minute drive is better than a 3 or 4 day drive when I need to figure something out

[Buller_Scott]

fair enough. i dont mean to come across as "pushy" at all, but when you're talking companies like apr, giac, revo technik, dna, custom code, viezu/chipped uk, unitronic, superchips etc etc, all the mapping development has been done overseas.

APR doesnt dyno / rolling road tune your car - just like other tuners, it's a case of "right. so the customer has given me their money, i'll just go to www.whatevertuningcompany.com/distributorlogin, punch in my username and password, make sure i've got enough dealer "keys" to download the tune from OVERSEAS, and into the customer's car. done!"

but the proximity thing will be comforting for a lot of people, no doubt

[aljobar]

Haha too true. Thanks for giving me the heads up on alternative companies as well btw. It's not as though I don't have a lot of time to weigh up my options...