Bi-Xenons with LED running lights - upgrade to non-xenon cars?

[gavs]

Just to add a bit more technical info for those who feel the urge to blind the rest of us on the road by buying cheap retro fit HIDs off ebay:
intellexual net · m k i v

[Guest]

Sorry guys but i just had a question, as i dont wanna be one of those people blinding road drivers but are the phillips globes and the daybreaker(i think thats what there called) globes legal to install in cars or are they the same deal as the cheapo ones, im getting my car in about a week and as its a TSI no option of xenons but id really love a whitish looking light rather than the normal yellow tinge

[Corey_R]

Hey Geoffiez89, I'm not a "headlight globe" fanatic so I've no idea if they're HID or Halogen globes you're talking about. If they are HID then they are illegal. It doesn't matter how good the brand or quality is.

If they are Halogen and what you're asking is are they are marked improvement over the stock halogen lights in your TSI, then I think you'll find this thread interesting:
http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/f112/headlight-drl-driving-park-light-bulb-replacement-37426.html

It's from the Golf MK6 forum, but halogen globes are halogen globes, and these guys have had their cars for longer to talk about this topic.
Have a read through it and look at people's suggestions, but I think that one of the most useful links is from Maverick and from his "My GTI" site:
Halogen | my-gti.com
The last 3 articles on that link will be of particular interest.

[sugilun]

Buy add on later

Hi all,

I'm planning to get a polo GTI with add ons. Due to limited funding I'm not able to get the xenon light at the start. I just want to know can I get the car first and then install the xenon later?

TOny

[William_Foster]

Tony, do a search and read through a few of the posts on this topic; basically you could, but it would end up costing a fortune and you would have a great deal of trouble making it legal. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

[sugilun]

Thx Wil, what u're saying is it will cost more than $1600 if I get it later?

[broxigar1983]

Yes, the lights on their own are around $1600, then you need to add head light washers (+new bumper & paint) and the auto level sensors in the car, so it can cost you up to $3k. You are going to wait at least 6 to 12 months for your car, so save another month or two and get your car then with the xenon lights and thing you want in it.

[gavs]

^^^^ What they said.

To give you a break down in AUD (Based of internation supply and costs, you would have to add shipping plus australian stealer markup):
Lights: $530 each (UK dealer price)
Auto leveling kit with sensors: $463 (Kufatek price)
Headlight Washers: $ no listed price
Headlight washer piping:$ no listed price
Bumper modified and resprayed: $450 approx
Globes: $45 each

Sorry dude

[Corey_R]

sugilun, I've merged your two threads here. If you want Xenon, get them from factory. 1) It's cheaper. 2) It doesn't make your car illegal. As you can see from gavs post, not even the regulars can find the required headlight washing parts...

The dealers will also not do this work, again, due to the legalities and costs involved.

[sugilun]

Thx Corey_R. I have never though about getting an aftermarket xenon headlights All I was asking is getting the factory one afterwards

[Corey_R]

Sorry... to clarify, we're not talking aftermarket here. We're talking about just that, installing the factory ones afterwards. Either way is illegal. Unless you install all the ancillery systems that gavs mentioned, it's illegal. If you DO install all of them, then I doubt you'd even be able to do this PROPERLY for under $3000 that some people have hypothesised.

So the best advice you will find, is what someone mentioned. If you order them now, you'll still have 6 months before the car arrives to save up! Just option them now.... or just be happy to wait until your next car

[Hail22]

Look it may not happen now, but i have heard whispers of some German aftermarket companies and an Chinese group who are modding the original halogen headlight unit to factor in the LEDs, naturally the head unit as it is now will be hard to fit the LEDs in it.

With all new cars like the MK VI GTI aftermarket lights will filter through usually after a year....it's all a roll of the dice really.

[Corey_R]

Whether the ADR's would allow them to be legally installed or not is another thing...

[Hail22]

Whether the ADR's would allow them to be legally installed or not is another thing...

Exactly that and you need to buy the units from the UK if from Europe as anywhere else the light is completely a different height/config (due to left hand drive).

Patience is a virtue, i am looking for 5x100 stud pattern VW reps...and i'm finding it hard but patience will pay off xD

[gavs]

Exactly that and you need to buy the units from the UK if from Europe as anywhere else the light is completely a different height/config (due to left hand drive).

Patience is a virtue, i am looking for 5x100 stud pattern VW reps...and i'm finding it hard but patience will pay off xD

Beauty of the Xenons though is that all that changes is the code in the ECU which gives you either the LDH or RHD beam pattern, that's another issue, if you don't get the Xenons, do they actually have the software to control the auto leveling already in the ECU regardless? Otherwise, that's something else you would need.....