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  • #16
    I am very confident that a Chinese made VW OEM Bi Xenon unit will not cost you USD$4000 or AUD for that matter...

    Mind you, even though they had 4 VW full car factories under Shanghai VW JV Group, they are yet to set up production for the new Gen Polo. Nevertheless, the Chinese is notorious for matching the looks (and accessories), but not necessarily the drive train in their domestic market vehicles...

    Which is STILL good news for us buying genuine VW parts! $4000 will get you a long way with VW OEM stylings.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BR @ ON View Post
      I am very confident that a Chinese made VW OEM Bi Xenon unit will not cost you USD$4000 or AUD for that matter...
      Where the headlamp unit is made is irrelevant to the cost from Volkswagen and they are generally made in Europe by a company like Hella.

      Retrofitting (without labour) a set of bi-xenons to the Mark V Golf is going to cost you over $4000 in parts and allow another $2000 for fitment (2 days) if you can't do it yourself (there is a lot of work involved).

      Mind you, even though they had 4 VW full car factories under Shanghai VW JV Group, they are yet to set up production for the new Gen Polo. Nevertheless, the Chinese is notorious for matching the looks (and accessories), but not necessarily the drive train in their domestic market vehicles...

      Which is STILL good news for us buying genuine VW parts! $4000 will get you a long way with VW OEM stylings.
      Why is it? Volkswagen factories in China are only for the domestic market and their accessories most likely will not fit other markets cars due to small changes.
      website: www.my-gti.com

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      • #18
        They do not design cars in China, they only strip down the power to suit their traffic jams! thats why it's a no brainer... as far as the accessories go. And why would it cost 2k for a fitting?? So its a 6K job in your mind? Drop me a name of your mechanic that makes 2k for that kind of wiring service, and I will make sure I AVOID them!

        IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD NOT TO DO A 200 BACKYARD HID CONVERSION!
        The price tag simply do not weigh up... 6000-200=5800!. I would personally spent the extra 5k or perhaps a bit more to get a Audi A1 (if bling is what I am after...)

        At moment, the new Gen Polo is available in China in minimum amount as direct import. I am pretty sure they could produce a full functional production line in fraction of time it took the south africans. it was almost like instantaneous for them set up a Tiguan production line from when it was released.
        Last edited by BR @ ON; 06-11-2010, 12:40 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BR @ ON View Post
          They do not design cars in China, they only strip down the power to suit their traffic jams! thats why it's a no brainer... as far as the accessories go. And why would it cost 2k for a fitting?? So its a 6K job in your mind? Drop me a name of your mechanic that makes 2k for that kind of wiring service, and I will make sure I AVOID them!
          I've made posts before that give a breakdown of the costs but you're looking at $2500 for the headlights, $500 for the harnesses and bi-xenon controller, $500 in ballasts and some other parts.

          You have to remove the interior down one side of the car to run the wiring that comes out near the rear suspension and the front suspension, remove part of the dash to fit the controller, run additional wiring between the light controller under the steering wheel to the headlights, fit new connectors to the headlight harness, put the car up on a hoist to fit the front and rear level sensors and possibly fit a new sway bar or other components depending, hook all this up and program and test the system.

          So yes you're not going to get much change out of two days labour.

          IF YOU ARE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD NOT TO DO A 200 BACKYARD HID CONVERSION!
          The price tag simply do not weigh up... 6000-200=5800!. I would personally spent the extra 5k or perhaps a bit more to get a Audi A1 (if bling is what I am after...)
          The backyard $200 HID conversion is stupid and idiotic and affects all the other drivers on the road. I hope they bring in laws to crush cars fitted with illegal and stupid HID conversions.

          If you can't see the different between a proper factory bi-xenon setup and the ebay $100 special you shouldn't be driving.

          At moment, the new Gen Polo is available in China in minimum amount as direct import. I am pretty sure they could produce a full functional production line in fraction of time it took the south africans. it was almost like instantaneous for them set up a Tiguan production line from when it was released.
          What this has to do with anything is beyond me........
          website: www.my-gti.com

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          • #20
            id rather stare at a back yard job then a proper merc or bmw bi-zenon.
            polo 6r tsi dsg sports pack in shiny red.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by matty View Post
              id rather stare at a back yard job then a proper merc or bmw bi-zenon.
              I have seen some pretty ill-informed comments before but to say that an illegal $100 HID reflector conversion is superior to an engineered factory fitted bi-xenon setup with projectors is ridiculous at best.

              Unlike the back yard job the merc/bmw factory bi-xenons have to meet standards, have to produce useful light, not blind other road users, have self leveling, a cleaning system and the list goes on.

              Retrofitting Xenons (HID) Lighting to reflector housings
              website: www.my-gti.com

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              • #22
                Originally posted by matty View Post
                id rather stare at a back yard job then a proper merc or bmw bi-zenon.
                Well that's for sure one very silly comment,
                I'm sure you didn't mean it. What Maverick said to you in the post above, explains you why. Keep in mind that fitting not ADR approved light anywhere on the outside of the car will make your car unroadworthy.
                Performance Tunes from $850
                Wrecking RS OCTAVIA 2 Link

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                • #23
                  im just saying there not nearly as bright as a proper one, i really cant stand them on the road on any car.
                  polo 6r tsi dsg sports pack in shiny red.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by matty View Post
                    im just saying there not nearly as bright as a proper one, i really cant stand them on the road on any car.
                    Aftermarket HID set
                    35W or 50W
                    6000K to 12000K

                    OEM Bi-Xenon HID set
                    35W
                    Generally 4200K

                    Which one is brighter?
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                    Aftermaket HID is designed to fit reflector units
                    OEM Bi-Xenon HID is designed to fit a projector unit

                    Which one has the sharp cutoff to prevent light affecting oncoming traffic and which one has a massive amount of light scatter to blind oncoming traffic?
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                    If you bothered to read the link I posted it explains the difference in detail with pictures and if true projector bi-xenon units do cause you problems on the road you should see a optometrist or stop driving at night. And rest assured that aftermarket retrofit units are much much worse.
                    Last edited by Maverick; 07-11-2010, 09:56 AM.
                    website: www.my-gti.com

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                    • #25
                      *relax im being sarcastic here*

                      I'm thinking of attaching aircraft landing lights to the roof of my polo, will this improve visibility on the road?



                      But yeah im with Maverick 1. Something needs to be done about these illegal retrofits that can blind the hell out of any man especially on crappy habib tin wheel hoons.

                      2. It flickers sometimes and can drive people insane (due to poor quality of the product)

                      The problem with all of this Maverick is that the police and the Government is in Revenue raising mode, so they are more than likely focusing on speeding/drink driving clowns rather than defect hoons.
                      Last edited by Hail22; 07-11-2010, 04:14 PM.

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                      • #26
                        well cant wait for an aftermarket hid kit for the polo's
                        polo 6r tsi dsg sports pack in shiny red.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by matty View Post
                          well cant wait for an aftermarket hid kit for the polo's
                          +1

                          Hope it doesn't cost $6k fitted like the other dude suggested...

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