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[Eaglehawk]

Well, looks like it's time for me to claim warranty for my DSG.

Going around a round-a-bout, accelerating gently to 100km/h, puff of smoke out the back, felt like I lost power. Pulled over immediately and shut off the engine.

Seems to be "fine" again, but gently acceleration under load, but low-revs, and there's a "noise" from the front of the car. Like it's dragging itself on the road. Hard to describe. And a ticking noise.

But again, it's hard to cause it to happen when you want to. Will call up the dealer's tomorrow and book it in. No error messages on the dash to make it even harder.

[GTI JOE]

Had the same as you joe. Ended up winding the window two centimetres from the bottom, inserting a wet wipe with my sons ruler, and winding the rest of the way down. Slid the wet wipe back and forwards, and slowly lifted it out a bit at a time, back and forwards. Did it twice and got rid of the smudging.

Thanks, I'll try it when I get some time...ahhh, the old wet wipes in the window trick

[jayc29u]

Well, looks like it's time for me to claim warranty for my DSG.

Going around a round-a-bout, accelerating gently to 100km/h, puff of smoke out the back, felt like I lost power. Pulled over immediately and shut off the engine.

Seems to be "fine" again, but gently acceleration under load, but low-revs, and there's a "noise" from the front of the car. Like it's dragging itself on the road. Hard to describe. And a ticking noise.

But again, it's hard to cause it to happen when you want to. Will call up the dealer's tomorrow and book it in. No error messages on the dash to make it even harder.

Which dealer are you gonna take it to? I find the belco dealer is absolute ****house when it comes to warranty repairs. they give you the good ole' VW bs. I have yet to take my car to Lennock in Phillip but if theyre just as crap as Belco, my cars going CVWC for services.

PS: I think you live near me! Yours is a Red GTI?

[sVWatt]

Which dealer are you gonna take it to? I find the belco dealer is absolute ****house when it comes to warranty repairs. they give you the good ole' VW bs. I have yet to take my car to Lennock in Phillip but if theyre just as crap as Belco, my cars going CVWC for services.

PS: I think you live near me! Yours is a Red GTI?

Belconnen Slaven are *****. From the sales repuls reps, to the useless tack-on Holden service dept. AVOID.

Been to Philip and they are good. Twice for runtime service. Fast, friendly and courteous.
CVWC been to once. Great speaking to the mechanic / owner. Will be going there for upgrades.

[fastlane]

Thanks for the wet wipe tricks for smudging, got same issue too!

Also to note, strange but had a similar issue to eaglehawk today. Just calmly accelerating out of roundabout getting to 5th, bang, big clunk from 4 to 5 (in d mode) followed by massive plume of black smoke out back... Didn't shift abruptly or anything, just a loud clunk and lots of smoke. Car didn't report anything out of the blue, yet if anything was more responsive after LOL

[Eaglehawk]

Which dealer are you gonna take it to? I find the belco dealer is absolute ****house when it comes to warranty repairs. they give you the good ole' VW bs. I have yet to take my car to Lennock in Phillip but if theyre just as crap as Belco, my cars going CVWC for services.

PS: I think you live near me! Yours is a Red GTI?

I took the Golf TDI to the Belconnen dealer once, for it's first major service. It took them 5 days. They couldn't work out how to re-prime the diesel engine. On top of that they left parts in the car tha rattled for a week until I found them. So you can guess which dealer I'm calling tomorrow

Yes, it's me, I think. There's 2 Red GTIs in the suburb

[AC74]

Also to note, strange but had a similar issue to eaglehawk today. Just calmly accelerating out of roundabout getting to 5th, bang, big clunk from 4 to 5 (in d mode) followed by massive plume of black smoke out back... Didn't shift abruptly or anything, just a loud clunk and lots of smoke. Car didn't report anything out of the blue, yet if anything was more responsive after LOL

Coughed up a furball maybe??

[gavs]

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Thanks for the wet wipe tricks for smudging, got same issue too!

Also to note, strange but had a similar issue to eaglehawk today. Just calmly accelerating out of roundabout getting to 5th, bang, big clunk from 4 to 5 (in d mode) followed by massive plume of black smoke out back... Didn't shift abruptly or anything, just a loud clunk and lots of smoke. Car didn't report anything out of the blue, yet if anything was more responsive after LOL

Black is fuel smoke so it was probably in too high a gear. I get that in D sometimes when I put the foot down coming out of the Melba tunnel onto the eastern, if I don't put the foot down enough to drop down a gear then it just belches out smoke and rumbles like crap until I drop it down myself.

[fastlane]

Great info, thanks gavs. Thought it was the box giving up!!! Glad to hear that

[prcurrie]

Great info, thanks gavs. Thought it was the box giving up!!! Glad to hear that

Yeah, just a fuel dump - I get that quite often.

I now know how to replicate it exactly and when I did the other day, the DSG didn't like me.

I was in manual mode, in 7th gear, crusing around 60kms (in an 80 zone), so I hit the throttle hard so the car would just use the torque to accelerate (and throw out the black smoke) but the DSG decided otherwise and threw me back into 2nd gear - the engine made a hell of a noise.

Guess nothing is truely manual!

As a note, I don't drive around trying to break the car but the dealer wanted to know what the smoke was (as they didn't believe me) so I had to figure out a way to replicate it!

[Melon Head]

Just a remider
Don't forget you can still use the paddle shifters when in D. If you want to overtake or floor-it then just manually drop it down a gear or two, no need to put the foot down and wait for the car to decide for you

[Eaglehawk]

Well aware of the paddle shifters. But that's the point, I wasn't trying to floor or overtake. It was just a gentle acceleration when it did the puff of smoke thing. Yes, maybe I was too low in the rev range, but I wasn't trying hard at all. I was still waiting for the engine to warm up.

[Melon Head]

Well aware of the paddle shifters. But that's the point, I wasn't trying to floor or overtake. It was just a gentle acceleration when it did the puff of smoke thing. Yes, maybe I was too low in the rev range, but I wasn't trying hard at all. I was still waiting for the engine to warm up.

That wasn't directed at you. Just a general comment. I sometimes forget myself. The more I am remembering to use the paddle shifters when required the more I am starting to like D. Still prefer S though most of the time and change to D when on the freeway or just cruising around, then drop to S coming into corners.

[kawabanga]

Well aware of the paddle shifters. But that's the point, I wasn't trying to floor or overtake. It was just a gentle acceleration when it did the puff of smoke thing. Yes, maybe I was too low in the rev range, but I wasn't trying hard at all. I was still waiting for the engine to warm up.

My theory is that a certain amount of oil has accumulated in the intercooler radiator due to excessive blow-by and breather pipe inefficiency.
At a certain point this oil was suddenly and entirely entered in the intake duct causing the puff of smoke...

This could not happen at every acceleration, but just when pipes or radiator accumulate a certain amount of oil...

This is the typical case of "the dog chasing its tail": the more blow-by happens, the more oil will be entered in the intake, the more piston rings will be inefficient because of the oil burned, causing more blow-by.........


EDIT: of course if smoke it's not due to oil burning, my theory is not applicable...

[Melon Head]

My theory is that a certain amount of oil has accumulated in the intercooler radiator due to excessive blow-by and breather pipe inefficiency.
At a certain point this oil was suddenly and entirely entered in the intake duct causing the puff of smoke...

This could not happen at every acceleration, but just when pipes or radiator accumulate a certain amount of oil...

This is the typical case of "the dog chasing its tail": the more blow-by happens, the more oil will be entered in the intake, the more piston rings will be inefficient because of the oil burned, causing more blow-by.........


EDIT: of course if smoke it's not due to oil burning, my theory is not applicable...

That is also my gut feeling about the issue.
I use to get the same issue with an old Alfasud, just before I was forced to get an engine rebuild.