New Polo - I've got one!

[cjeff]

hi all, just thought I'd let you know that I picked up a new Polo for my GF last week. I had to ring every dealer in Sydney, plus a couple in Brisbanem Melbourne and ACT to find one with the Sport Pack and Comfort Pack and not wait for 5-6 months.

Ended up getting one from McGraths VW in Sutherland (Sydney). It's a Comfortline TSI in Manual, with Sport Pack, and Comfort Pack and added we added Carpet Mats. For those looking for one with both the Comfort Pack and Sport Pack, Denlo VW in Parramatta have one as demonstrator that they'll sell too (although it already had 250kms on it 1.5 weeks ago...)

I'll get some picks up soon - they're on my iPhone and I don't have my cable with me (funny how a simple nokia could transfer photo's to my laptop via bluetooth but an over priced POS can't do it...).

With the turbo, I don't think we're going to see the fuel economy figures VW are quoting, but for what it is, I think it will great. After 250kms since picking it up, we're averaging about 8.2L/100 City driving (off peak traffic too).

One thing that is annoying me though is the engine management that hopefully a APR chip can change later. In first gear the ECU is clearly limiting the boost, the pick up is just stunted until you get to second gear, which means to get it going I'm short shifting 1st as soon as revs are high enough to get boost in 2nd gear. I have no idea why VW have limited the boost in 1st gear it's not like its a Mazda 3 MPS with 190KW...

Actually on second thought, it may not be boost limited, it could just be throttle mapped differently. The reason I say this is because VW have specified in the running in procedures (and I don't want to start a running in procedures debate either right now or ever for that matter) to not use full throttle until after 1500kms, and I wonder if it's just programmed not to boost fully in 1st unless the throttle is fully depressed. All as I know is that with about 50-70% throttle in 1st, boost is non existent compared with 2nd gear. I spoke to the dealer about this on the follow up phone call I had with him yesterday, but he didn't really know the technical details of what exactly was happening, all he basically said was that's the way it is.

Anyway, since at the price point, we had been looking at 2nd hand Golf MKV Sportlines for my GF, getting a brand new car with the same features (climate control etc etc) has worked out great. We would have like one with leather too, but we were lucky just to get the one with Comfort Pack and Sport Pack as it is (we couldn't wait 5 months for a car...)

[Buller_Scott]

i went to check one out at the dealership the other day. they are definitely a VERY nice car.

especially in metallic colors, and with the dash/steering wheel etc. they look like much more car than they cost, for sure.

congrats!

but we need pics!

[dave_r]

hi all, just thought I'd let you know that I picked up a new Polo for my GF last week. I had to ring every dealer in Sydney, plus a couple in Brisbanem Melbourne and ACT to find one with the Sport Pack and Comfort Pack and not wait for 5-6 months.

Tried the same with no luck and had to order.

One thing that is annoying me though is the engine management that hopefully a APR chip can change later. In first gear the ECU is clearly limiting the boost, the pick up is just stunted until you get to second gear, which means to get it going I'm short shifting 1st as soon as revs are high enough to get boost in 2nd gear.

I found the same thing with the manual, found it slightly annoying as I'd get into 2nd as soon as possible.

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One thing that is annoying me though is the engine management that hopefully a APR chip can change later. In first gear the ECU is clearly limiting the boost, the pick up is just stunted until you get to second gear, which means to get it going I'm short shifting 1st as soon as revs are high enough to get boost in 2nd gear. I have no idea why VW have limited the boost in 1st gear it's not like its a Mazda 3 MPS with 190KW...

You'll likely find it isn't boost limited, instead you just can't generate enough load in 1st gear to produce the gasses required to generate full boost, as the MKV Polo GTI's suffer from (and a number of other turbo cars)

Try accelerating from standstill in 1st up a steep hill, you should feel a big difference in the boost.

[AMG63]

I've picked up my Candy White TSI 1.2 DSG last saturday, and did 500km till now. I like the built quality and the overall safety features and design (body lines,headlight and rear lights), the only thing Im not satisfied are the susspension which is too soft for me, especially when I corner in higher speed, felt nervous. The standard 15in and tyre is not wide enough. Other than that, I,m happy with the standard equipement, it will be nice to have the sports pack on top for only $1500. The best part is the DSG, it felt very fast and really gives the car more sporty feel.

[cjeff]

You'll likely find it isn't boost limited, instead you just can't generate enough load in 1st gear to produce the gasses required to generate full boost, as the MKV Polo GTI's suffer from.

Try accelerating from standstill in 1st up a steep hill, you should feel a big difference in the boost.

I haven't tested what you're suggesting yet, but I'm not leaning towards this way thinking as from all the turbo cars I've owned (4 Subaru's, a Peugeot, and an Astra), none of them have responded this way. I do realise that this car is only a 1.2 however.

Have you driven a new Polo yourself? If you've driven one, I think you'd understand more what I mean. That said, I'll have a crack tonight (there's a significantly steep street near where I live...)

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I haven't tested what you're suggesting yet, but I'm not leaning towards this way thinking as from all the turbo cars I've owned (4 Subaru's, a Peugeot, and an Astra), none of them have responded this way. I do realise that this car is only a 1.2 however.

Have you driven a new Polo yourself? If you've driven one, I think you'd understand more what I mean. That said, I'll have a crack tonight (there's a significantly steep street near where I live...)

I haven't driven a new Polo yet, no.

But both my old MY05 WRX WRP10 and my current MKV Polo GTI have troubles hitting full boost in 1st gear, simply because by the time I get any load on the motor to build boost I have to shift as I've run out of rpm.

The other thing you can do is (be careful doing this) is put your foot on the brake, and on the accelerator at the same time using the brakes to prevent the car from accelerating and putting the engine under load. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if they prevent this in modern cars (I haven't tried in years) by taking off the throttle as soon as the brake is applied. That said, again... be careful if you choose to do this.

[cjeff]

the only thing Im not satisfied are the susspension which is too soft for me, especially when I corner in higher speed, felt nervous.

I haven't really "tried" out the sport pack yet, but from going round a few corners a bit spirited, I can tell that the sport pack is quite stiff, how much stiffer over the standard I'm not sure, but either way for $1500, what you get is quite a bargain. 17's, plus tyres, plus suspension, plus fog lights, plus static turning lights (built into the foggies and works quite well although my Peugeot 207 did it better) - you couldn't buy all that for $1500.

Hope you enjoy the Candy White - we would have like that colour too, but with so little stock, colour was one thing we went without.

[cjeff]

I haven't driven a new Polo yet, no.

But both my old MY05 WRX WRP10 and my current MKV Polo GTI have troubles hitting full boost in 1st gear, simply because by the time I get any load on the motor to build boost I have to shift as I've run out of rpm.

The other thing you can do is (be careful doing this) is put your foot on the brake, and on the accelerator at the same time using the brakes to prevent the car from accelerating and putting the engine under load. Hell, I wouldn't be suprised if they prevent this in modern cars (I haven't tried in years) by taking off the throttle as soon as the brake is applied. That said, again... be careful if you choose to do this.

With the accelerator and brake thing, I don't know about from a standing start whether it'll let you, but it does allow brake and accelerator at the same time as I've tried out the heel and toe and it responds quite nicely (in fact the pedal placement for heel and toe on this thing is actually quite nice).

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With the accelerator and brake thing, I don't know about from a standing start whether it'll let you, but it does allow brake and accelerator at the same time as I've tried out the heel and toe and it responds quite nicely (in fact the pedal placement for heel and toe on this thing is actually quite nice).

Sorry, I should have specified... definitely something to do on the roll, NOT from a standstill.

But yeah... good to hear about the pedal position. The pedals on the MKV Polo GTI are HORRIBLE for heel toe

[Jetta5]

In first gear the ECU is clearly limiting the boost, the pick up is just stunted until you get to second gear, which means to get it going I'm short shifting 1st as soon as revs are high enough to get boost in 2nd gear.

I noticed the same thing when I test drove the manual. Didn't notice it in the short test drive I had in the DSG though.

[dave_r]

I noticed the same thing when I test drove the manual. Didn't notice it in the short test drive I had in the DSG though.

Good to hear it wasn't noticable in the DSG. I think its ECU related not due to the car being unable to produce enough load. If you change into 2nd straight away it has heaps of go at low speed. Great little car.

[Sharkie]

You'll likely find it isn't boost limited, instead you just can't generate enough load in 1st gear to produce the gasses required to generate full boost, as the MKV Polo GTI's suffer from

???? My GTI was able to hit 1.5bar (23+PSI) easily in 1st gear ... so not sure whats wrong with your car .... its definately not a Polo GTI trait ....

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???? My GTI was able to hit 1.5bar (23+PSI) easily in 1st gear ... so not sure whats wrong with your car .... its definately not a Polo GTI trait ....

It's the same problem as many other turbo cars, if you can't put the load on the motor you're not going to build the boost.

Launch a Polo GTI at 4k rpm and by the time you hit any boost you have to change, not to mention boost is tapered down to ~15psi on most tunes by then anyway.

[Allegiance]

I got a Black 1.2TSI, DSG, Sports pack to be delivered by the 15th of June I am very happy!