New Passat 206TSI R-Line

[chopper]

You would buy the Passat because:
1) Resale
2) Badge snobbery
3) Fancy digital dash

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Then there's all the clever little Skoda things:
The cargo blind that retracts automatically when you lift the tailgate
The push-button start is on the steering column (not some silly button on the dash)
The bonnet covers the entire front of the car - the sheet metal actually covers the front guards a little bit which ads to a fantastic line. Picture attached.
Does the Passat have the LED mood lighting like the Golf R?
Does the Passat have LED puddle lights in the wing mirrors?
Factory iPad holder for the rear passengers
Did I mention the gargantuan leg room?
Passat Wagon boot space 1,780L vs Superb @ 1,950L

Looks to me like you've just made the case for the Passat!

To answer your questions...

Passat boot cover also auto retracts.
The Superb start button is only on the column to cover the hole from the regular ignition!
Bonnets tend to do that!
It has mood lighting in any colour, so long as it's warm white!
Yes to puddle lights... yes to iPad holder (albeit, a bloody expensive option!).

All jokes aside... you'll sell tonnes of them! They're a great car.

[Delewin]

Hi chopper.
Thank you for your info. Actually you are the first to answer my original question regarding area view.
Regards
David

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[Mysticality]

Looks to me like you've just made the case for the Passat!

To answer your questions...

Passat boot cover also auto retracts.
The Superb start button is only on the column to cover the hole from the regular ignition!
Bonnets tend to do that!
It has mood lighting in any colour, so long as it's warm white!
Yes to puddle lights... yes to iPad holder (albeit, a bloody expensive option!).

All jokes aside... you'll sell tonnes of them! They're a great car.

Superb Start button is in a Simply Clever place - everyone who jumps in one knows exactly where it is!
The bonnet sits OVER the guard, not alongside it - I think you have to see one in person to know exactly what I'm talking about, but it looks great!
MY17 Superb has 10 colours! Although you'll probably only ever set it to blue.

Passat doesn't have blinds in the rear doors?
What about the secondary holder in the boot that rolls/clips out of the way?
Bending headlights?
And no vented seats? Come on, VW...

[blueSup]

I’ll back up Mysticality here, even with my proven bias. (http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...ce-112819.html)

The Superb, for me, presented and felt like a better car. When you look at all the switchgear and control placement, it’s absolutely clear they are all from the same place, but layouts are subtly altered.
Both the Passat and the Superb are individual sums of the same parts, and both produce excellent results. In my eyes, and this is the subjective part, the Superb came out to a better number for me than the Passat.
From the rims (love them), to the uncluttered dashboard, interior colour choice, to the start button being in the right place, the Superb added up to a better sum for me.
Both cars have clumsy points, and both have character. The Passat was just a little smaller, more cramped, and very dark on the inside. Yes, the Passat has a groovy TFT dash now, but the Superb’s dash cutout is the same shape so you know that the same dash will make an appearance there too. The simplicity of the gauges and the whole dash in the Superb was a selling point for me.
And when you line the two cars up side by side, the Superb has a much better arse.

[TrueRush]

Hi all new to vwwatercooled here,

I'm in the market for one of these. Had a look at the Superb 206 and was quite impressed overall. Loved the Alcantra on the seats VW missed the boat on that one.

On the Superb we looked at in the center console where the shifter was at the end where it meets the cup holder it was flimsy it moved and clicked everytime we placed pressure on it. Can anyone with a Superb 206 confirm they fixed this? It seems they forgot to place lining there. That is one of those issues I can't simple overlook as if the issue is there what else did they overlook.

The digital display on the Passat is a huge bonus. I prefer the looks over the Superb. I believe it will age better. Not a fan of the Superb headlights shape front and back nor the grille. Where as the Passat's lines are cleaner for me.

My grips with the cars is the DSG we have a Golf Mk7 diesel and my mother-in-law has the B7 diesel pano/wagon. The fit and finish and just solid feel I can appreciate. I hate how the DSG behaves after an ideal stop tho. I haven't tried the petrol fully yet but our friend has an older Tiguan petrol and it just seemed to respond better.

I really wished they made a hero color for both 206 would be hot with that light polo blue.

Also the sound from the exhaust or lack of shame.

Can someone with a Passat show us some pictures of the exhaust pipes where they will meet the faux bumper pipes?

I haven't gone to do a test drive yet. Will be looking in about Feb to buy.

[Mysticality]

On the Superb we looked at in the center console where the shifter was at the end where it meets the cup holder it was flimsy it moved and clicked everytime we placed pressure on it. Can anyone with a Superb 206 confirm they fixed this? It seems they forgot to place lining there. That is one of those issues I can't simple overlook as if the issue is there what else did they overlook.

I've just checked out a Superb we have in the showroom, and there's minimal (and/or none at all) movement from the plastics in/around the shifter area. Perhaps it was only that car you were looking at?

My grips with the cars is the DSG we have a Golf Mk7 diesel and my mother-in-law has the B7 diesel pano/wagon. The fit and finish and just solid feel I can appreciate. I hate how the DSG behaves after an ideal stop tho. I haven't tried the petrol fully yet but our friend has an older Tiguan petrol and it just seemed to respond better.

Releasing the brake pedal slowly will reveal a "clutch point" for the DSG - where it starts to pull the car forward like a conventional automatic. If you take a minute to work out where this point is, and remember it, it becomes much easier and more responsive to drive. Soon this becomes second nature and all is well!
Subsequently, the "clutch point" for the DSG is also close and/or the same as the "start point" for the Auto Stop/Start. Two birds, one stone.

[Delewin]

Just a little bit of news. I went for a short drive in a beautiful white 206 tsi with sunroof on Sunday. First the positives.
1. It really goes. Big smile on face.
2. The seats are very supportive and the driver's seat also has a lower back massager function built in. Big smile for the right reasons.
3. The electronic dash is so full of good info for the driver. Big tick.
4. The active cruise control works fantastically in city traffic. Just set the desired speed and give a say 5 second distance before the car takes over and push the go peddle and let the car take over from there. You take your foot off the accelerator and sit it next to the brake. Just if you suddenly loose your nerve. Very big smile on face as you just steer. The car brakes and accelerates tagging the car in front as the datum point.
5. Heaps of space to move house if needed.
6. A full size spare Tyre. The significance of this cannot be underestimated. Virtually every car today has a space saver Tyre that cannot exceed 80km/hr. That's not funny when you are 600 km from the nearest tyre place that can fix or replace your tyre.

I'll continue the positives later.

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[Riker]

Fella's,

My local VW guys were telling me on Saturday that the R-lines (specifically the 206) do not have park assist however I note that the relevant sensors on the side of the front & rear guards used for park assist are in place. Anyone with the 206 (chopper) advise. Ta.......

[adamking]

It does mine reverse parked itself the other day


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[Delewin]

Part 2 of the positives.
7. It's very quiet overall. The only sound I heard was the sweet sound from the exhaust with wide open throttle. Big cheesy grin.
Tyre noise was noticeable but you had to listen for it.
8. I thought the sound system was very clear and had good tonal balance.
9. I'm not a great fan of sun roofs but this one humungous. It's feels like 1 metre wide x 2 metres deep. There is an interesting blind that is pulled to minimise sun burn on bald headed old guys like me. Worth another smile.
10. The instantaneous fuel consumption was interesting to watch it racing past 45 l/100km. Driven more sedately the consumption will be much more manageable.
11. The 206 KW output makes good use of the 4 wheel drive set up.
12. Speaking of economy. The engine actually switches itself off when stopped for more than 3 seconds (I think). Just squeeze the accelerator to bring it back to life. I know this is a good thing but why buy such a great car to have that beautiful engine turn itself off all the time. I know, only drive when there is no other traffic on the road. Wait a minute that may not be practical. Hmm.. back to the drawing board.

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[Delewin]

Now for the negatives
1. Most significantly my wife preferred the Tiguan. We have been driving SUVS for the past 14 years.

2. Errrr... oh I know. Refer to point 1.

Putting wife's comment aside. I am very impressed with the quality of finish and performance. Very big smile.

I can only congratulate the owners of their 206s and wish them a long safe and trouble free motoring experience.

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[Janko]

I can only congratulate the owners of their 206s and wish them a long safe and trouble free motoring experience.

Did you test drive the 132 Comfortline?The 206 has an adaptive suspension,AWD and a bigger engine other than these 3 features the rest is all same for 132 and they are about 10k cheaper.

It is worth exploring if the area view is really useful.If yes then Tiguan may be a better choice.The only issue I see with Tiguan 132 is lack of LED headlights.I am in love with LED headlights on my Passat.It makes a huge difference to the visually challenged like myself.

[chopper]

Now for the negatives
1. Most significantly my wife preferred the Tiguan. We have been driving SUVS for the past 14 years.

2. Errrr... oh I know. Refer to point 1.

Putting wife's comment aside. I am very impressed with the quality of finish and performance. Very big smile.

I can only congratulate the owners of their 206s and wish them a long safe and trouble free motoring experience.

Just buy both. Problem solved. You're welcome!

Did you test drive the 132 Comfortline?The 206 has an adaptive suspension,AWD and a bigger engine other than these 3 features the rest is all same for 132 and they are about 10k cheaper.

It is worth exploring if the area view is really useful.If yes then Tiguan may be a better choice.The only issue I see with Tiguan 132 is lack of LED headlights.I am in love with LED headlights on my Passat.It makes a huge difference to the visually challenged like myself.

It's a bit more complicated than that... for example, the 19" wheels you used to get with the R-Line package are now exclusive to the 206TSI. The interior is more like a luxury pack Highline than the Comfortline (including alarm, safe-lock etc.). All in all, I'd say it's $10,000 well spent to upgrade to the 206TSI. That's without mentioning the Comfortline driver will be passing 70km/hr (and looking at my sweet, sweet premium LED tail lights - also not included on the Comfortline) when I'm at the highway speed limit...

Also, I wouldn't get wrapped up around the axles with area-view. Honestly, you'll use it once or twice (I still haven't used the self-park on our 206TSI (yes... it's fitted as standard) then just use the regular rear view camera. We have it on another of our cars... it gets VERY little use! It's cool if you've got it... not a disaster if you don't (IMHO!).

[Delewin]

Hi Janko,

I did get to drive both the Tiguan 140TDi highline with R-line option as well as the 132TSI with DAP installed. The leather seats of the Tiguan highline are not a well fitting as the Passat. They are flatter and wider. I dended to slide around when pushing the Tiguan but did not budge in the 206 Passat.

I did not get much of a chance to "play around with the adaptive suspension in both the Passat and the 140 TDI Tiguan. I can say that I was going to order the Tiguan 162 with both DAP & R-line options but now I will be saving myself $4,000 and not getting the R-line option.

In day to day traffic, I could not tell there was much difference in the std suspension of the 132TSI (17" rims) and the 140 TDI Rline (20" rims). I appreciate that when really pushed the sports setting would assist considerably on a track day, but I am a bit past that and I am not buying the Tiguan to race it. If I was that way inclined I would get a Golf R, etc.

I areally like the Area View that comes with the DAP option in the Tiguan, but the 206 4 wheel drive Passat wagon is such a beautiful "sleeper" I loved it. I have owned a small number of very powerful sleepers in the past. (If you have 10+ hrs free I could talk abit about them. Ha. Ha.)

I actually did not get much of an oportunity to test out the Area view but I could see my hans when I stuck it out the driver's window. The Passat has "near side" mirror park position. Basically if it knows you are reversing into a parking position, it will reposition the near side mirror to look down towards the gutter thereby helping you see where you are heading and how much clearance you have. There is also the rear wide angle camers.


I agree with you regarding LED headlights. I would consider the 132TSI with DAP pack if it came with the adaptive LED headlights, but alass it does not. So Highline it must be. (I justify the difference in cost by having an 30 KW extra output, 18" rims vs 17, the adaptive LED headlights plus a few extra bits and pieces.) At this stage I think I will be placing my order for the 162TSI with DAP only. No sunroof no R line. That way I can put a tow bar on if needed later.

Regards,
David

[Delewin]

Ha Ha Chopper.

No can do. My wife tells me I only have one garage with space for one car. She would not tolerate me having a brand new car stuck out on the roadside every day.

So even with such a generous genleman like yourself who would willingly stump up for the 206 TSI on my behalf, I would have to very reluctantly pass up this once in a lifetime opportunity.

But thank you again chopper your great suggestion will be remembered for a long time to come.

Best wishes,
David