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  • #76
    New TTE470 going on next week
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    • #77
      Hello Goublin

      Im just stocked to see another passat r fan in brisbane for starters. Iv loved mine for nearly a 2 years and I started modifying mine the 2nd day I had it. I put a set of black rotiform rims on and then lowered it (this did start some issues with VW as the height sensors failed but once I figured out how to change them I was all good, VW had no idea on how to fix it).

      Ive also done the resinattor delete, turbo muffler delete and replaced all of the intake air piping including new filter. Plus other small things here and there. But most of my mods have been done on VCDS, like being able to change the colour of my dash and the like.

      I have spent many many many hours with my rosstech and obdeleven tools and not just my current passsat b8 but my b7 alltrack, mates Audi S3's, many golf r's and even the wifes little Polo Beats Edition. Iv had even had people in europe ask me to do coding on there passats. Long story short I know how to rectify your lag during launch control.

      There are a few settings in the ABS modual that need to be adjusted to prevent the power being cut to the engine during the launch. They are simple settings PM me and I will give you a walk through.

      Also please look up my page on facebook. Its called Benifications, its my side hobby, helping people who want VCDS changes but dont know how to do them safley.

      Also regarding your warranty, I wouldnt worry too much. On my first Passat within the first month of learning VCDS I wipped one of the control modules (first and only time btw) so I took it to VW and told them what I had done and they where happy to fix it under warrenty. If your up front with them and dont flat out lie to their face they generaly are pretty good with most issues. Plus they always have to prove that it was the mod that caused the failure anyhow.

      Cheers Ben
      Last edited by Diegothecat; 03-11-2018, 11:34 PM.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Goublin View Post
        New TTE470 going on next week
        [ATTACH=CONFIG]34781[/ATTACH]
        Interested to see how you go with this one...

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Diegothecat View Post
          Hello Goublin

          Im just stocked to see another passat r fan in brisbane for starters. Iv loved mine for nearly a 2 years and I started modifying mine the 2nd day I had it. I put a set of black rotiform rims on and then lowered it (this did start some issues with VW as the height sensors failed but once I figured out how to change them I was all good, VW had no idea on how to fix it).

          Ive also done the resinattor delete, turbo muffler delete and replaced all of the intake air piping including new filter. Plus other small things here and there. But most of my mods have been done on VCDS, like being able to change the colour of my dash and the like.

          I have spent many many many hours with my rosstech and obdeleven tools and not just my current passsat b8 but my b7 alltrack, mates Audi S3's, many golf r's and even the wifes little Polo Beats Edition. Iv had even had people in europe ask me to do coding on there passats. Long story short I know how to rectify your lag during launch control.

          There are a few settings in the ABS modual that need to be adjusted to prevent the power being cut to the engine during the launch. They are simple settings PM me and I will give you a walk through.

          Also please look up my page on facebook. Its called Benifications, its my side hobby, helping people who want VCDS changes but dont know how to do them safley.

          Also regarding your warranty, I wouldnt worry too much. On my first Passat within the first month of learning VCDS I wipped one of the control modules (first and only time btw) so I took it to VW and told them what I had done and they where happy to fix it under warrenty. If your up front with them and dont flat out lie to their face they generaly are pretty good with most issues. Plus they always have to prove that it was the mod that caused the failure anyhow.

          Cheers Ben
          Hi Ben, i will PM you now and if you are kind enough to talk me through that it would be great. I will update were i am with the build below, feel free to add any input. Checked out and liked your page

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          • #80
            Okay guys update:

            With all my mods on i took the car to the track. The best qtr mile i ran with new turbo was 12.7secs. Now remember i did 12.106 at stage 2. Although the tune was no good and have previously blown 2 turbos before changing tuner. We knew something is quite right and suspect the LPFP. When i cross checked all the fueling parts with VW against the GOLF R the lpfp was the only thing that was different. I then purchased a CTS upgraded pump. When we took out the lpfp...it doesnt fit with out chopping and modding. Not wanting to risk screwing it up and having the car off the road, i shopped round and eventuallly bought a LPFP from Lithuiania.


            This is on its way. In the mean time i am speaking to a guy in Bulgaria that is doing exactly the same on a skoda superb and is getting help from REVO. he has been good enough to update me and send instructions and pics. So when my pump arrives we can follow the same way he did it.

            The other issue i have had, and this is ever since i got the exhaust done is an occasional smell in the car of exhaust gas when redlined - not always but happens often. We have checked the car for exhaust leaks, there are non. My mechanic and tuner cant figure it out.

            The car is still quick pumping out 254 awka and i very quick through the mids. I just think there is more in it for a stage 3

            Any comments, experience or feedback gratefully received - happy to explain further should i of missed anything

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            • #81
              Still waiting for LPFP to arrive. Made a few tweaks on VCDS...... see the results of the 0-60 using the P3
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              • #82
                Hi All,
                I know this a Passat forum but I'm literally about to book a stage 1 APR for my Arteon...and read on here that the Passat software and ECU is not a golf R... my goal is more torque and the occasional traffic light battle Haha what's you're opinions?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by nickbeh View Post
                  Hi All,
                  I know this a Passat forum but I'm literally about to book a stage 1 APR for my Arteon...and read on here that the Passat software and ECU is not a golf R... my goal is more torque and the occasional traffic light battle Haha what's you're opinions?
                  I'd go with eTuners or Tarmac Engineerings Spectune. Both companies know how to tune for these vehicles in these conditions. I am sure APR have tuned a few but after Goublin's original turbo issues, I'd be more inclined to look at the others. Those issues might be completely unrelated (given it's only one case) but I'd personally steer away.

                  Stage 1 Tune should Yield 270kw & Around 500nm on the Arteon (normally around 480 on the pre 7R's (pre 7.5) and Passats). The 7SP has different torque limits and ratios so it can handle a bit more than the older 6SP unit.
                  MY17 206 R-Line Passat Sedan, Pure White, Sunroof | Spectune STG1 | VWR 600 Intake, TMD, Inlet Elbow | Res Delete

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Goublin View Post
                    Still waiting for LPFP to arrive. Made a few tweaks on VCDS...... see the results of the 0-60 using the P3
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]40685[/ATTACH]
                    This was without Launch Control I am assuming. I'm getting low 4's and even a 3.9 0-100 with a Stage 1 (ish) tune
                    MY17 206 R-Line Passat Sedan, Pure White, Sunroof | Spectune STG1 | VWR 600 Intake, TMD, Inlet Elbow | Res Delete

                    MY 13 Tiguan 155TSI | Pepper Grey | DSG | Leather | RVC | RNS510 | ACC | 18" New York Wheels -SOLD

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                    • #85
                      What are the best options for a modest catback? Just after a slightly fuller sound than stock, like a stock Golf R.

                      Milltek do good ones in golfs but can’t see them in passats.
                      Last edited by Jimi; 09-06-2019, 11:20 AM.
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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Jimi View Post
                        What are the best options for a modest catback? Just after a slightly fuller sound than stock, like a stock Golf R.

                        Milltek do good ones in golfs but can’t see them in passats.
                        There is a Supersprint option, but it looks overpriced by the time you get it into Australia.
                        MY17 206 R-Line Passat Sedan, Pure White, Sunroof | Spectune STG1 | VWR 600 Intake, TMD, Inlet Elbow | Res Delete

                        MY 13 Tiguan 155TSI | Pepper Grey | DSG | Leather | RVC | RNS510 | ACC | 18" New York Wheels -SOLD

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                        • #87
                          I was thinking of removing the stock mufflers and removing all of the insulation and bypassing pipes. Then put it all pack together with a new T piece from the single exhaust. As I see that section is very restrictive.

                          But if I have the time is another thing.

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                          • #88
                            Hi mate, just saw some interesting information here about the launch control that could be of interest. My car runs the Garrett Powermax Stage 1 turbo on E85 and has been custom tuned by Gallano in Sydney. I also did the throttle sensitivity mod and the increased traction mod via obd11. I am experiencing some issues with the launch control now where the car seems to not want to hold the revs and also there seems to be some some power cuts at about 5500 rpm momentarily similar to when traction breaks. Do you think this could be linked to the obd11 mods?

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