Upgrading and re-cording CANBUS gateway

[Old Navman]

Hi did you manage to clear the errors.
Could it be you have the old climatronic unit and might need to upgrade to a newer one??

The Fakra connector seems ok to me, should just slot in, did you align the grooves/ridges.

Be wary of the 2 to 1 Fakra connectors on ebay, they have a single wire only, the other slot is just a blank.

As per my above post, the VCDS behaved today so it seemed clearing the codes wasn't "a problem" Per se. No, the original Fakra connectors were simply too fat and the spacing on the RCD510 Fakra socket is too narrow. Have a look below at the RCD310 original spacing and compare the two. I didn't want to break anything on the new head unit even before I installed it in the vehicle.


Original Fakra spacing

I simply ended up taking the plastic Fakra shrouds and using electrical tape to "insulate" them. But a fellow from car radio installation joint told me that wasn't really required. He said the Fakra has the shrouds to lock the connectors in so they simply don't come out at any stage during driving. Since I know they're not locked I can always fix it should the problem arise. Well, I could make a plastic "bridle" and use a hot glue to make sure they won't come out but that's an extra work .


(new) RCD510 Fakra spacing

[Old Navman]

Is your VCDS a clone?
That's the sort of thing clones do. Look like they work but don't.

I don't want to say so not to incriminate myself but suffice to say it worked OK under the "old gateway".

[kamold]

I don't want to say so not to incriminate myself but suffice to say it worked OK under the "old gateway".

They are crap.
So unfortunately you're pretty much left to fight with it or get something that works.

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[Old Navman]

They are crap.
So unfortunately you're pretty much left to fight with it or get something that works.

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Yeah, that's why today I visited an auto electrician who happens to have a working VCDS. It appears that most coding was already on the gateway - once he saved the coding for type of car - VW sedan, RHD, etc all came back alive. The Convenience Menu, reverse light, fog light, etc.

The only thing he couldn't do is to get rid of the communication fault between the head set and the can bus which comes up as intermittent. He reckons it could be due to the fact I'm upgrading with Delphi h/u which whilst being a "proper VW h/u" is apparently only fitted to VW cars in China. Don't know about this one.

Upshot from all this is - invest in a good VCDS cable and you'll save in the long run.

[sn809]

Yeah, that's why today I visited an auto electrician who happens to have a working VCDS. It appears that most coding was already on the gateway - once he saved the coding for type of car - VW sedan, RHD, etc all came back alive. The Convenience Menu, reverse light, fog light, etc.

The only thing he couldn't do is to get rid of the communication fault between the head set and the can bus which comes up as intermittent. He reckons it could be due to the fact I'm upgrading with Delphi h/u which whilst being a "proper VW h/u" is apparently only fitted to VW cars in China. Don't know about this one.

Upshot from all this is - invest in a good VCDS cable and you'll save in the long run.

Definitely getting a genuine VCDS is very important. I was lucky enough to get an old Hex cable on the relatively cheap side.

I have a Noname 330 from a Chinese phaeton. Works well for me although I had opened up the harness to get access to the canbus and added an extra cable covered with shrink wrap.

Is the canbus gateway genuine??

[Old Navman]

Definitely getting a genuine VCDS is very important. I was lucky enough to get an old Hex cable on the relatively cheap side.

I have a Noname 330 from a Chinese phaeton. Works well for me although I had opened up the harness to get access to the canbus and added an extra cable covered with shrink wrap.

Is the canbus gateway genuine??

Yes, made in the Czech Republic. I don't know if Chinese are into copying canbus gateways (yet) but I suppose anything is possible.

[kamold]

Yes, made in the Czech Republic. I don't know if Chinese are into copying canbus gateways (yet) but I suppose anything is possible.

Of course they are.
Very simple device.
So you need to be careful which part you buy when it comes to hw version, eeprom size, ext can and Lin bus interfaces.

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[Old Navman]

Of course they are.
Very simple device.
So you need to be careful which part you buy when it comes to hw version, eeprom size, ext can and Lin bus interfaces.

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How do you spot a fake when on the fleabay all canbus looks the same? At least on the outside.

[sn809]

reputable seller or just visit one of the garages that allow you to pick parts yourself (both understandably difficult due to covid)

[Old Navman]

reputable seller

Do you have one in mind? Mind sharing the info?

[kamold]

You're not going to find China copies of 3C0 gateways.
There are 7N0 gateways that you need to be careful of because they are sometimes labeled as having 8k eeproms for fatigue assist but they only have 4k. You can modify them though by replacing the eeprom and then flashing with the correct software.

[sn809]

I got mine from a guy who was selling the Rcd330 Noname.
I needed it due to battery drain issue.
I think I got the wrong model for my Passat so decided on balance just to ensure I switch it off and make sure nothing is connected to it. I just top up the battery once a week.
Its a long hauler any way so battery kinda gets pumped up fairly well once it gets going.

[Old Navman]

You're not going to find China copies of 3C0 gateways.
There are 7N0 gateways that you need to be careful of because they are sometimes labeled as having 8k eeproms for fatigue assist but they only have 4k. You can modify them though by replacing the eeprom and then flashing with the correct software.

I'm relieved to hear that (mine is the 3C0). The gateway, despite some initial setting problems, seem to be behaving Ok.

[Old Navman]

I got mine from a guy who was selling the Rcd330 Noname.
I needed it due to battery drain issue.
I think I got the wrong model for my Passat so decided on balance just to ensure I switch it off and make sure nothing is connected to it. I just top up the battery once a week.
Its a long hauler any way so battery kinda gets pumped up fairly well once it gets going.

Getting the updated gateway installed and "in order" seem to have fixed any possible battery drain problems thus far. The radio is working well ... but a bit of a disappointment. Mind you after almost 3 years laying in box I could probably afford to buy the RNS530 now for the price I've paid (3 yrs ago) for the RCD510.

But even with 510 I don't have a camera installed so this capability (for now) is being wasted. The rear (pop up) cameras are still fetching around A$200 plus I'd probably be looking at getting the wireless sender so I don't have to run wires all the way to the front of the car. I think some kind of video converter is also needed for this to work wirelessly so it all adds up.

[sn809]

Lol, I didn't even know a wireless option existed, if I would want anything it would be wireless android
Running a cable to the back is not too difficult. Just remember to remove all the tabs that state airbag first as some of them have a torx screw behind them.

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This is the camera I got, got the RCD330 from the same guy with the K0 series canbus as a package to save on shipping. Has yellow lines that move with steering. Seems good enough for day to day, as some one said I not going to be shooting the next blockbuster on it.