B7 Highline 3.6 V6 oil?

[Diesel_vert]

Here's one thread among many I just found on early oil changes in E46 M3's. As you can see changing your oil out early can make massive differences.

The "Why you shouldn't follow dealer oil change intervals" thread - BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X)

I used to over maintain My M and I'll be doing the same to the VW. Keeps me off the

BMW appear to have a variable service regime, where the service interval is determined on how the car the driven, with the maximum possible interval being 25 000 km (15 000 miles) if driven under ideal conditions.

In the forum that you've linked to, the majority of people appear to advocate halving that figure and changing the oil every 12 500 km (7 500 miles). The remaining others go even further and advocate performing oil changes every 8 000 km (5 000 miles).

Likewise, a 7 500 km (4 700 mile) oil change interval would be more than sufficient for your VW.

Again, I don't see why a more frequent schedule, i.e. every 5 000 - 6 000 km (3 000 - 3 750 miles), would achieve anything of value.

Mine at 106,000km's looked pretty much like the 4th picture down.

If you're referring Obioban's car, he or she changed the oil every 7 500 miles (12 000 km) according to the first post.

[kook]

Again, I don't see why a more frequent schedule, i.e. every 5 000 - 6 000 km (3 000 - 3 750 miles), would achieve anything of value.

No problems. In all honesty it might float out closer to the 7500km mark sometimes. Either way, you service your car to your needs and I'll do likewise with mine. Happy motoring...

[snerlo]

Just a quick question to the people in the know, filter change during the midcycle oil change? Just curious as i used to do the oil and filter on my xr8 but it was really easy. Just a bit nervous doing it on the R36 if i decide to change every 7,500km. I havent investigated where the filter is located and how easy it is to get off.

[Lucas_R]

I would always change the filter.

[Guest001]

Just a quick question to the people in the know, filter change during the midcycle oil change? Just curious as i used to do the oil and filter on my xr8 but it was really easy. Just a bit nervous doing it on the R36 if i decide to change every 7,500km. I havent investigated where the filter is located and how easy it is to get off.

Why would you change the oil and leave dirty stuff in the filter. Kind of defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do isn't it.

If VW specify 15,000k (or 12 month) oil changes I wouldn't waste the money doing it sooner unless I lived in a high dust area or somewhere that was classed as a extreme driving condition area.

[Transporter]

Why would you change the oil and leave dirty stuff in the filter. Kind of defeats the purpose of what you are trying to do isn't it.

If VW specify 15,000k (or 12 month) oil changes I wouldn't waste the money doing it sooner unless I lived in a high dust area or somewhere that was classed as a extreme driving condition area.

I agree, when you change oil at 7,500km you should always change the oil filter as well.

The VW also says lifetime fill in many transmission, and boy how wrong they got it. Regrading oil changes, there were also many court battles that related to the sludge build up, ruining the engines (not just VAG), of course they lost and had to pay for the damages. Before someone attacks that it was almost 10 years ago, I have to say that it's happening quite often and so far at least once in a decade. Maybe it's worth to refresh that the wrong oil was used from the start causing... yes you guessed it the DSG recall, now we going with the mineral oil in the DSG, I hope that they have that right now. Based on that, why would I (anyone) trust their judgment?

So, yes change the oil as you like, some people like to keep their cars for ever, well +10 years or so, and for them the oil change once a year or 15,000km doesn't have to be enough to keep the engine trouble free for that distance. Bear in mind that many drive in the peak hour traffic, which is driving under severe driving conditions. After all isn't the dusty environment across whole Australia the reason why we need to change the timing belts every 7 years or 105,000km whichever comes first, despite the Europe is on some models 240,000km no time limit?

If you keep your car for 10 years and do 20 oil changes instead 10 during 150,000km you will use only 40L more engine oil (in most models).
Go figure your cost, and compare to someone who did once a year (very often it's 2-3 months later than that), the engine has now a few oil leaks and the owner feels like "Hmm, I better replace that car very soon before it cost me a lot of money".

With the right maintenance, you shouldn't feel the urge to replace your car every 3-4 years from the fear of very expensive repairs.
I never did.


Of course, if you're used to replacing your car every 3-5 years, don't waste your money on extra servicing. You get your car close to 100,000km even without the oil change, just top ups, well with a bit of luck maybe. But, it was done before.

[brad]

I always do the filter at mid-change. I'd actually rather change the filter than the oil.

Either get genuine or (IIRC) Mahle or Mann are the preferred aftermarket items. They are cheap as chips (<AUD10) at MicksGarage.com but you might wish to grab some other service parts /spares/ accessories or buy a bulk lot to make the postage palatable.

[kook]

Just a quick question to the people in the know, filter change during the midcycle oil change? Just curious as i used to do the oil and filter on my xr8 but it was really easy. Just a bit nervous doing it on the R36 if i decide to change every 7,500km. I havent investigated where the filter is located and how easy it is to get off.

Description here v8snerlo. I presume that's it, and I'm presuming its similar for the V6-4Motion, I'll find out on the weekend. As others have said, no point dumping the oil if you don't change the filter. I always make sure the engine is at temp before I pull the plug also...

Passat R36 Forum - R36Owners.NET - Passat R36, 3.6 V6 DSG • View topic - Oil Filter

PS : I also completely over-service my transmission/diffs...

[Diesel_vert]

I would always change the filter.

I agree, when you change oil at 7,500km you should always change the oil filter as well.

I always do the filter at mid-change. I'd actually rather change the filter than the oil.

As others have said, no point dumping the oil if you don't change the filter.

I agree.

Either:
- Replace the engine oil filter, then top up with new engine oil (usually between 0.5 - 1.0 L, depending on the oil filter capacity); or
- Drain the engine oil, replace the engine oil filter, then refill with new engine oil.

I always make sure the engine is at temp before I pull the plug also...

That too.

[brad]

If the sump plug isn't uncomfortable to touch then you've done it wrong.

[OilBurna]

At least the oil for VW spec is cheaper now remember when I bought the castrol VW spec it was 95 from the dealer. Valvoline at repco was $52


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[kook]

Excellent point Brad I hate it when the plug drops in the bucket of hot oil, that really sucks. High level swearing and banging your head on the suspension follows from the recoil...

I ended up with Shell Helix Ultra Extra, I think it was $69. Dealer oil was $84. In retrospect I might just buy dealer oil next time, not much difference...