R36 Stock

[Rocket36]

Look at every race car in the world with a sequential gear box. Is that enough evidence for you? Think I mentioned that earlier too.

Sorry if you're offended, no offence was intended to anyone - just telling it as I see it is all. I state facts when they're black and white and if my opinion is right based on evidence I have given and yours is wrong, so be it. It doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion. I do - you're entitled to it.

Cheers mate!

[Rocket36]

Drove a new A4 2.0T Quattro Limited Edition.
Very nice car that's for sure.
Is it a $15,000 better car than the R36?
No (IMHO)

Couldn't agree more! I drove the BMW 3 series, Mercedes E-Class and Audi A4 all as close to the cost of the R36 as I could get them and there was no comparisson. The R36 wins against them all! Best value for money out of all the Germans.

[Radius]

May I turn this push-pull sticky debate around by 90 degrees? Can anyone explain to me the logic of the sequential gate being on the passenger side of the transmission tunnel? I find this a bigger issue than the push-pull orientation (seriously!). I'm roughly 5 foot 6" (yes, vertically challenged) and no amount of g-force orientation is going to make that manual upshift any easier to reach Lucky the R36 has telescopic paddles... errr I mean steering wheel

[Rocket36]

i'd guess it has something to do with all of them being developed in left hand drive countries.

[Radius]

That was what I thought too... except....



It's OK.... my height very rarely causes me trouble *cough*

[Rocket36]

Hmmm... How interesting. I wonder if the dealer can get a hold of the overseas model shifters so we can flick them towards us? I wonder if the tiptronic shifting can be reversed... Very interesting.

[R34]

If only I could change the indicators to the other side too.
2 years and 40,000kms and I still have to think about which is the indicator or wipers. Embarassing to flash the lights at someone when I wanted a window wash.
Get back into my weekend Skyline and all seems natural.
That plus trying to change down with my shifter into a corner and indicate at the same time

[R36 Dreamer]

If only I could change the indicators to the other side too.
2 years and 40,000kms and I still have to think about which is the indicator or wipers. Embarassing to flash the lights at someone when I wanted a window wash.
Get back into my weekend Skyline and all seems natural.
That plus trying to change down with my shifter into a corner and indicate at the same time

Dare I say Indicators are for wusses. No need for em.



LOL

[gerhard]

Highly trained teams of engineers? LOL!!! What the? The reason most road cars are setup as "push forward to shift up" and "pull back to shift down" in their tiptronic gear boxes is to cater to the majority of people that will buy them. The lower gears in an auto box have always been pulled back, or towards the back of the car to shift to and the higher ones (incl. D) pushed forward towards the front. It is for THAT reason that they make + push forward (for higher gears) and - pull back (for lower gears) for road cars...

Laugh all you like, but the journalists that complain about it are 100% correct. Shifting up in tiptronic mode should be pulled back and shifting down pushed forward. It has nothing to do with "highly trained engineers" that makes most cars end up setup wrong, just that they have to cater for dumb people that think the right way is actually the wrong way.

Bottom line... + Pull Back, - Push Foward is CORRECT. + Push Foward, - Pull Back is WRONG.

Man, that's just so much B/S. Apply that thinking to driving a manual car to see how ridiculous the argument is. After moving off in first, you can pull back to get 2nd gear, but after that you're stuffed.....you can't shift to 3rd because the lever has to be pushed forwards, and the massive G forces would prevent you from doing that ?????

[Rocket36]

Man, that's just so much B/S. Apply that thinking to driving a manual car to see how ridiculous the argument is. After moving off in first, you can pull back to get 2nd gear, but after that you're stuffed.....you can't shift to 3rd because the lever has to be pushed forwards, and the massive G forces would prevent you from doing that ?????

Hahahahahaha!!! Nowhere did I ever say it applied to H pattern gearboxes. Only sequential gearboxes. It's not BS at all. Seriously, you will not find a sequential gear box in ANY race car anywhere in the world that you have to push forward on the stick to shift up...... I also didn't mention G forces. Intertia yes, G forces, no.

[ron]

Rocket, there are forward upshift seq/gearboxes.

Also dont forget race or powerglide gearboxes, and they are not H pattern.



Although i agree that VW should ve done it the other way around.
Also on the next R36 i hope they would include a proper set of shift paddles not buttons that stuck to the wheel, its just awkward when turning.

[apom]

Hahahahahaha!!! Nowhere did I ever say it applied to H pattern gearboxes. Only sequential gearboxes. It's not BS at all. Seriously, you will not find a sequential gear box in ANY race car anywhere in the world that you have to push forward on the stick to shift up...... I also didn't mention G forces. Intertia yes, G forces, no.

Ummm.... incorrect.... go and have a look at any of the 2 litre touring cars (in the UK or even when they ran in Australia) They were often arse about.

I agree it should be the other way around, as with the indicator stalk.

To be honest you would think it should be a relatively easy thing to do as it is only activating an electronic switch each time you pull or push on the leaver.

Anyone tried to do it?

[R34]

My own thread revival
I've not managed to make a decision yet but need to as lease runs out this year.
I'm yet to see a white R36 but did manage to test drive a A5 Sportback today.
Bloody heck for $101k it was just so bland.
Yes it did everything expected of it but then so does a fridge.

Certainly highlighted what good comparitive value the R36 is.
So the R36 is back on the shortlist along with a (don't laugh) HSV Clubsport

[Rocket36]

I got rid of my VE HSV Clubsport R8 to get into my R36 and I haven't looked back! And besides, the new series 2 VE HSV range look like rice boxes...

[tryingavw]

My own thread revival
I've not managed to make a decision yet but need to as lease runs out this year.
I'm yet to see a white R36 but did manage to test drive a A5 Sportback today.
Bloody heck for $101k it was just so bland.
Yes it did everything expected of it but then so does a fridge.

Certainly highlighted what good comparitive value the R36 is.
So the R36 is back on the shortlist along with a (don't laugh) HSV Clubsport

is $

whats the $ onroads damage on the hsv?

is $101 on the road? for the 2l turbo petrol or the diesel?

seems a lot for the petrol.

you might also consider the mb c350cdi which should come in under 100k on road. get the split seats. or bm 330d