Some Tuning News

[Golf Houso]

Whats exactly wrong with getting a professional exhaust shop to fabricate a nice high flow exhaust with some good domestically produced mufflers ?

[Guy_H]

Oettinger will be re visiting the Passat R36 tuning in the coming months. Unfortunately that's all they had to say at this stage!

[Autopia]

There are still 19yo virgins?

I like to think so. Keeps me young.

[Autopia]

Whats exactly wrong with getting a professional exhaust shop to fabricate a nice high flow exhaust with some good domestically produced mufflers ?

Nothing in theory. But you run the risk of drone or other annoying sounds. You are basically a test bed for the new exhaust. Been there done that.

I'd prefer a tried and tested system. JMHO

[Autopia]

Oettinger will be re visiting the Passat R36 tuning in the coming months. Unfortunately that's all they had to say at this stage!

Great news. People are starting to take notice of the poor old R36.

[Autopia]

Hi all,

I got a further reply from Evolve-Technik today. Please see below for the entire response.

Feedback and interest welcome.

Hi Sean

I'm glad we can meet your expectations for customer service, we are
aiming to set new standards in this industry.

Regarding your comments on the forum, once again, thanks for the
positive comments. If you get the chance to edit your post which
specifies 30KW and change it to 30HP, that would be great

I spent many hours going over options with our tuner last night re R36
(time differences are a killer!!!). We can offer the following
options for you and potentially other forum members:

VW R36 evolve technik ECU tune (std 220kw/350nm - tuned 236kw/374nm).
This tune has been written, tested and verified on our tuner's dyno in
Germany. The cost of this tune is $1870.20 incl GST.

We would expect that the combination of tune and exhaust would take
the gain to 22kw (16kw with tune alone). This is speculative at this
stage as these exhausts would need to be produced and then tested.

If there is sufficient demand (and interest) in producing exhaust
systems for the R36, then we can arrange this. We can get these
fabricated and produced by our tuner in Germany. We would need a
minimum order of 5 systems to make this viable. What's more important
is ensuring the exhausts produce a sufficient gain (and improvement).
We would need to inspect an R36 exhaust initially and determine what
sections could be improved. If the headers are restrictive, then a
full system may be warranted - if the headers are OK, then maybe a
headers-back system may be the only thing required to improve flow and
performance, eg cat, mufflers etc. It's too early to say but we would
estimate that to develop and land a full systems (five) would cost
each customer between $2,900 - $3,500 not including GST and fitting.
This would vary according to whether they are either full or part
systems and what specifications are requested, eg 100 or cell cats. We
realise that getting a firm order of five systems in advance may be a
challenge for you, given these systems are yet to be developed and the
potential gains may not be significant enough to sway some R36 owners
to go-ahead. However, it can be done!

In the meantime, the tunes are available and are a good start. Once
you receive delivery of your R36, we could tune it for you and you can
assess it for yourself. With normally aspirtated engines, the gains
(when tuning) are not as profound as they are with forced-induction
cars. This is where customer expectations need to be managed - this
isn't an issue with customers like yourself who are knowledgable on
these things.

I hope this helps and we look forward to your response.

Regards


--
Neil Meka
evolve technik

[jmj]

For those with a 125kw TDI Passat, cost of ECU tune with evolve-technik is a touch under $2k.

[James1001]

also spoke to evolve technik, cant seem to go wrong with a 5 year warranty and money back guarentee satisfaction, so will go down possibly some time next week and see what they can do for the R36 tunning wise

[Autopia]

My post above with the quote from evolve-technic is all they have so far, that's why I posted it.
They are attempting to source R36 bits and Neil will keep me informed so I can update everyone via this thread.

also spoke to evolve technik, cant seem to go wrong with a 5 year warranty and money back guarentee satisfaction, so will go down possibly some time next week and see what they can do for the R36 tunning wise

[3Putt]

Only Modest Gains..

Gains of around 25kW / 30Nm are modest to say the least.

Do you think the tune will be noticeable / significant / negligent??

[Autopia]

Gains of around 25kW / 30Nm are modest to say the least.

Do you think the tune will be noticeable / significant / negligent??

It's not the power I'm concerned with it's the torque. A 30Nm increase would noticable but what more important is to alter the point at which the torque actually kicks in. In the stock R36 it arrives at 2400rpm. It would be ideal if this was reduced to 1900-2000. If this can be done along with the 30Nm increase the performance would be quite noticably improved.

As for negligent, hardly. If you first question whether it would even be noticable then how could it possibly be negligent. If it was a huuuuge increase then maybe negligence would be a consideration.

I've modified plenty of the cars I've had in one form or another. If it's done right and with a proper understanding of the vehicle then you should have no concerns.
Companies like evolve-technic do Porsches, Ferraris and other cars of that stature. They understand what the owner requires and how to deliver it in a way that will not harm the vehicle.
These guys aren't back yarders doing shonky mods on a 20yo VL turbo or some other clapped out POS.

Cheers
Sean

[Steve]

Negligent doesn't make any sense... negligible, surely!

[3Putt]

Negligent read Negligible!

Yeah, someone saw my typo!

By negligible, I mean not noticeable anywhere other than on the dyno.

30Nm across the rev range would be noticeable (hence not negligent ), but 30Nm over a narrow band (say 5000-6500rpm) may not be.

The satisfaction guarantee seems to be genuine (spoke to Neil at revolve today) so I guess its a no-jeopardy situation. Money back - no questions asked.

Anyone interested in a group buy on the tune only?

[Autopia]

Neil will be happy to be receiving a number of enquiries for their work. The more interested parties that contact him the better it could be for everyone pricewise.

[Autopia]

Hi all,

As Neil mentioned in post #36, it would be helpful for someone to bring in their R36 so he can conduct an inspection of the exhaust system to determine where improvements, if any, can be made.

Is there a Melbourne owner who would be happy to have their R36's exhaust system inspected in order to see what improvements can be made? It would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me.

Cheers
Sean