Arteon on the list of quality cars that people don't buy

[Buzy_Robot]

The Ignore List: quality cars that you’re just not buying

[Rooboy]

Interesting all but one were Euro makes (excluding the NSX bracketed with the R8 and i8 )

[Ozsko]

Interesting all but one were Euro makes (excluding the NSX bracketed with the R8 and i8 )

And the Mazda 6.

I have always thought the Arteon was on a hiding to nothing in this country as the segment is sort of no mans land in Oz. The Mazda 6 is sort of in the same bracket to some extent but then it and the Arteon also have the hurdle of being conventional sedans & not Suv style vehicles.

[gandv]

The Ignore List: quality cars that you’re just not buying

I think the CC might have been the same too. It's also hard when it comes to selling second hand -the car gets listed only under it's specific name (not as say a prestige car) and people probably don't even think of it to look, therefore very limited to those few who are aware? Great shame - good cars

[gandv]

And the Mazda 6.

I have always thought the Arteon was on a hiding to nothing in this country as the segment is sort of no mans land in Oz. The Mazda 6 is sort of in the same bracket to some extent but then it and the Arteon also have the hurdle of being conventional sedans & not Suv style vehicles.

That's a surprise really - I'd suggest they're one of the best Mazda's, and if they don't sell that many ....

[Buzy_Robot]

To be sure, the sedan market is floundering in Australia, but having said that sedans still account for a third of the new car market. The current pricing of the Arteon is ludicrous. At $76,318 driveway, it's over $10,000 more expensive than when I bought mine 9 months ago. No way would I have bought an Arteon at the current price point. In fact, right now I'd be looking at the Volvo S60 or updated Passat in Highline trim (with Luxury & R-Line Packs) when it finally hits our shores. Even the Kia Stinger GT or Holden Commodore VXR offer more competitive pricing than the Arteon. Not saying any of these cars are better than the Arteon, but I have a few friends looking to buy new cars who genuinely admire my Arteon, then check out the price and instantly look elsewhere.

[Ozsko]

RIP the Arteon at that price.

[Mr_206]

To be sure, the sedan market is floundering in Australia, but having said that sedans still account for a third of the new car market. The current pricing of the Arteon is ludicrous. At $76,318 driveway, it's over $10,000 more expensive than when I bought mine 9 months ago. No way would I have bought an Arteon at the current price point. In fact, right now I'd be looking at the Volvo S60 or updated Passat in Highline trim (with Luxury & R-Line Packs) when it finally hits our shores. Even the Kia Stinger GT or Holden Commodore VXR offer more competitive pricing than the Arteon. Not saying any of these cars are better than the Arteon, but I have a few friends looking to buy new cars who genuinely admire my Arteon, then check out the price and instantly look elsewhere.

Thats just RRP, they do sell in the 60's though. And much better cars than say a commodore!

[Buzy_Robot]

Thats just RRP, they do sell in the 60's though.

If you can please give me the details of a Victorian VW dealer willing to sell a brand new Arteon in the 60s, please do so. My friends don't want a demo or used one, must be brand new. The current RRP is a stretch, but if in the 60s as you say - and what I paid for mine 9 months ago - they would give it serious consideration over the Kia Stinger.

[Mr_206]

If you can please give me the details of a Victorian VW dealer willing to sell a brand new Arteon in the 60s, please do so. My friends don't want a demo or used one, must be brand new. The current RRP is a stretch, but if in the 60s as you say - and what I paid for mine 9 months ago - they would give it serious consideration over the Kia Stinger.

I paid low 70s for mine before the caar even had come out. Mine was on the first boat to hit Melb. They have had deals if i remember in the high 60's with a $3k bonus not too long ago.

[MrAskani]

That's your mistake. You're trying to use a dealer. Use a broker. I purchased mine through a broker and the price dropped from $74k to $68k just by calling a different phone number. $74k was the best offer the dealer would make me. They've got profit margins, realestate etc and wages et al that they've got to pay. Brokers often time don't have that same markup or cost commitment. They purchase at fleet discount prices for individuals. It's great. I'm never purchasing a car through a dealership ever again.

[Buzy_Robot]

Great advice about using a broker; however, it's still too much at the moment.

In July 2018 my mate bought an Arteon with S&S package & window tinting from a VW dealership for $65,000

In December 2018 I bought an Arteon with S&S package, sunroof & window tinting from a VW dealership for $68,000

Imagine if my mate and I had gone through brokers respectively!

RRP has been over $76,000 for a quite a few months now (sure, there's been a $5,000 finance deposit contribution & now that's been replaced with a $5,000 bonus on MY19 white coloured variants), but as it stands Volkswagen Australia need to bring the RRP down if they want to sell more than they are right now. In my opinion, the RRP of the Arteon (with S&S package) should be $69,990.

I'm actually very interested in seeing what happens to the positioning and pricing of the Arteon once the updated Passat hits our shores. Given the upcoming Passat will have an updated interior and infotainment system, it'll put some pressure on Arteon sales as well. Yes, I know the Passat and Arteon are targeted at different demographics and types of buyers, but the interior is all Passat with both models and the Arteon will look dated on the inside and a generation behind in terms of infotainment systems. It's performance and snazzy exterior will only go so far. Time will tell ...

[HiddenTaco]

Interesting.

Mid last year every dealer in Sydney was able to to $65k S&S package and sunroof. No trade-in, no finance. Keep in mind this was with the 3 year warranty.

[Buzy_Robot]

Interesting.

Mid last year every dealer in Sydney was able to to $65k S&S package and sunroof. No trade-in, no finance. Keep in mind this was with the 3 year warranty.

Really good points, HiddenTaco. The 5 year warranty came into effect from October 2018, I think. I know my Arteon purchased in December 2018 has it - much to the chagrin of my mate who bought his with the 3 year warranty in July 2018!

Making the Arteon an exclusive model is all well and good, but the current pricing will send it into oblivion.

[Ando]

Really good points, HiddenTaco. The 5 year warranty came into effect from October 2018, I think. I know my Arteon purchased in December 2018 has it - much to the chagrin of my mate who bought his with the 3 year warranty in July 2018!

Making the Arteon an exclusive model is all well and good, but the current pricing will send it into oblivion.

You seem to have funny logic. If the new car price falls, then also the used car price plummets which affects the resale value.
I hope the high car price for Arteon remain the same , which will mean less Arteon's on the the road and make it much more of a rarity.