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Originally posted by Rooboy View PostInteresting all but one were Euro makes (excluding the NSX bracketed with the R8 and i8 )
I have always thought the Arteon was on a hiding to nothing in this country as the segment is sort of no mans land in Oz. The Mazda 6 is sort of in the same bracket to some extent but then it and the Arteon also have the hurdle of being conventional sedans & not Suv style vehicles.
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Originally posted by Buzy_Robot View PostV6 CC - Love it - ------------------ - Golf V 2.0 FSI
S3 Sportback - S-Tronic, Daytona Grey, Assistance package, magnetic Ride, B&O Sound system, Hold Assist, Load through facility with rear arm rest, 5 twin spoke star wheels.
RS5 Sportback - Daytona Grey - New addition 2019
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Originally posted by Ozsko View PostAnd the Mazda 6.
I have always thought the Arteon was on a hiding to nothing in this country as the segment is sort of no mans land in Oz. The Mazda 6 is sort of in the same bracket to some extent but then it and the Arteon also have the hurdle of being conventional sedans & not Suv style vehicles.V6 CC - Love it - ------------------ - Golf V 2.0 FSI
S3 Sportback - S-Tronic, Daytona Grey, Assistance package, magnetic Ride, B&O Sound system, Hold Assist, Load through facility with rear arm rest, 5 twin spoke star wheels.
RS5 Sportback - Daytona Grey - New addition 2019
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To be sure, the sedan market is floundering in Australia, but having said that sedans still account for a third of the new car market. The current pricing of the Arteon is ludicrous. At $76,318 driveway, it's over $10,000 more expensive than when I bought mine 9 months ago. No way would I have bought an Arteon at the current price point. In fact, right now I'd be looking at the Volvo S60 or updated Passat in Highline trim (with Luxury & R-Line Packs) when it finally hits our shores. Even the Kia Stinger GT or Holden Commodore VXR offer more competitive pricing than the Arteon. Not saying any of these cars are better than the Arteon, but I have a few friends looking to buy new cars who genuinely admire my Arteon, then check out the price and instantly look elsewhere.Last edited by Buzy_Robot; 16-09-2019, 12:22 AM.MY22 Volkswagen Arteon
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Originally posted by Buzy_Robot View PostTo be sure, the sedan market is floundering in Australia, but having said that sedans still account for a third of the new car market. The current pricing of the Arteon is ludicrous. At $76,318 driveway, it's over $10,000 more expensive than when I bought mine 9 months ago. No way would I have bought an Arteon at the current price point. In fact, right now I'd be looking at the Volvo S60 or updated Passat in Highline trim (with Luxury & R-Line Packs) when it finally hits our shores. Even the Kia Stinger GT or Holden Commodore VXR offer more competitive pricing than the Arteon. Not saying any of these cars are better than the Arteon, but I have a few friends looking to buy new cars who genuinely admire my Arteon, then check out the price and instantly look elsewhere.
Thats just RRP, they do sell in the 60's though. And much better cars than say a commodore!
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Originally posted by Mr_206 View PostThats just RRP, they do sell in the 60's though.MY22 Volkswagen Arteon
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Originally posted by Buzy_Robot View PostIf you can please give me the details of a Victorian VW dealer willing to sell a brand new Arteon in the 60s, please do so. My friends don't want a demo or used one, must be brand new. The current RRP is a stretch, but if in the 60s as you say - and what I paid for mine 9 months ago - they would give it serious consideration over the Kia Stinger.
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That's your mistake. You're trying to use a dealer. Use a broker. I purchased mine through a broker and the price dropped from $74k to $68k just by calling a different phone number. $74k was the best offer the dealer would make me. They've got profit margins, realestate etc and wages et al that they've got to pay. Brokers often time don't have that same markup or cost commitment. They purchase at fleet discount prices for individuals. It's great. I'm never purchasing a car through a dealership ever again.----------------------
My Car: 2019 Arteon
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Great advice about using a broker; however, it's still too much at the moment.
In July 2018 my mate bought an Arteon with S&S package & window tinting from a VW dealership for $65,000
In December 2018 I bought an Arteon with S&S package, sunroof & window tinting from a VW dealership for $68,000
Imagine if my mate and I had gone through brokers respectively!
RRP has been over $76,000 for a quite a few months now (sure, there's been a $5,000 finance deposit contribution & now that's been replaced with a $5,000 bonus on MY19 white coloured variants), but as it stands Volkswagen Australia need to bring the RRP down if they want to sell more than they are right now. In my opinion, the RRP of the Arteon (with S&S package) should be $69,990.
I'm actually very interested in seeing what happens to the positioning and pricing of the Arteon once the updated Passat hits our shores. Given the upcoming Passat will have an updated interior and infotainment system, it'll put some pressure on Arteon sales as well. Yes, I know the Passat and Arteon are targeted at different demographics and types of buyers, but the interior is all Passat with both models and the Arteon will look dated on the inside and a generation behind in terms of infotainment systems. It's performance and snazzy exterior will only go so far. Time will tell ...Last edited by Buzy_Robot; 01-10-2019, 03:17 PM.MY22 Volkswagen Arteon
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Originally posted by HiddenTaco View PostInteresting.
Mid last year every dealer in Sydney was able to to $65k S&S package and sunroof. No trade-in, no finance. Keep in mind this was with the 3 year warranty.
Making the Arteon an exclusive model is all well and good, but the current pricing will send it into oblivion.MY22 Volkswagen Arteon
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Originally posted by Buzy_Robot View PostReally good points, HiddenTaco. The 5 year warranty came into effect from October 2018, I think. I know my Arteon purchased in December 2018 has it - much to the chagrin of my mate who bought his with the 3 year warranty in July 2018!
Making the Arteon an exclusive model is all well and good, but the current pricing will send it into oblivion.
I hope the high car price for Arteon remain the same , which will mean less Arteon's on the the road and make it much more of a rarity.Arteon TSI R-Line 2019
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