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  • Tiguan cruise control missing cluster icon, vag code request.

    Hello!

    I've just retrofitted the cruise control on my tiguan my2010, the cc works good, but I only have the green light on the tachometer indicating that the cc is working and I'm missing the speed on the cluster, so can someone with cc fitted and fully working post his vag coding? Maybe I've something wrong or not coded, I think the channels are 01-engine and 16-steering wheel, correct?

    Cheers!

  • #2
    Some didn't have it, depends on the year model. Same goes for Golf.
    '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
    '01 Beetle 2.0

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    • #3
      Mine's a base model 2010 & has the cruise speed over-riding the odometer readout when in use at the bottom left of the MFD. I do have comfort pack, though.
      Current: MY18 TRANSPORTER CrewVan, Indium Grey
      Previous: MY10 Tiguan 2.0TSI, Silver Leaf, APR StgII tune + many mod's

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      • #4
        Thanks for the info!

        MGV, yours is original or retrofitted?? Do you have a vag to make a scan and post the coding?

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        • #5
          Yep, mine is OE. Sorry, don't have a cable for scanning.

          Best of luck getting yours sorted.
          Current: MY18 TRANSPORTER CrewVan, Indium Grey
          Previous: MY10 Tiguan 2.0TSI, Silver Leaf, APR StgII tune + many mod's

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          • #6
            Toki if I remember correctly it is the adaption settings of the #17 instrument panel and as Umai Naa!! said only the recent panels versions support this
            MY 21 T Cross 85TSI Life| Makena Turquoise | Driver Assist Package |
            Mods: VCDS tweaks |

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            • #7
              Mmm, it's strange because on various forum I see a lot of cc retrofitted with green light AND icon on MFD on old MY09 tiguan, that's older than mine, so I thought of a wrong coding...

              Today or tomorrow I'll have the chance to check it with vag...

              Cheers.

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              • #8
                I think only the white mdf had this not the red. Certainly my 2008 with red mdf didn't have it and my 2013 with white mdf does !!

                Cheers
                Derek
                Alexandra
                2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
                Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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                • #9
                  Just to clarify, mine is a white MFD in a 2010 Tiguan.

                  I found this thread on the forum that confirm that a 2010 Tiguan with white MFD can do it, the question is how



                  Cheers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MGV View Post
                    Mine's a base model 2010 & has the cruise speed over-riding the odometer readout when in use at the bottom left of the MFD.
                    Toki could you post your own VCDS scan? Did you have to change the SWCM to retrofit CC, or did you just swap the stalk to include the CC switches? I have this function working (CC display in white MFD) a base trendline model early 2008 Tiguan TDI in Australia with stock cruise control and all Mk5 electronics, except:
                    1) Swapped the SWCM from 1K0 953 549 "BG" version to 1K0 953 549 "CH" version @ SW 0111 (for G85 steering angle sensor near slipring, not in steering rack) for mk6 MFSW Golf GTI retrofit.

                    2) instrument cluster swap from 5N0 920 870 D @ SW 2220 (red MFD VDO with micronas chip) to 5N0 920 871 B @ SW 0206 (white MFD VDO with NEC chip)

                    Everything else, ie: CECM, CCM, CAN gateway is all low-line ancient mk5 based rubbish.

                    CONCLUSION
                    • The function must therefore either be coming from SWCM or Instrument Cluster. I never had to do any coding to set this up, it just worked. I get CCdisplay in white MFD with little CC icon, and no more green indicator light in the speedo.
                    • All "CH"-version SWCM have SW = 0111 AFAIK according to ross-tech website. I got the CH SWCM from eBay china for AUD$60 posted. Installation required removal of steering wheel IIRC. Link to ross tech: Steering Wheel Control Module Versions - Ross-Tech Wiki
                    • Also my 'new' retrofit white MFD SW is 0206 which is the lowest version I have seen for this part number, so unlikely to be SW version issue (though may be entire cluster part number)
                    • Perhaps it is due to coding of cluster? Mine is set to "7 - AUSTRALIA", see coding below. I think some regions behave differently, like US setting means you don't get large speed display in white MFD etc. I get the large speed display (need to have Alt. Speed unticked in settings menu) Note: when you change region, sometimes RNS510 radio loses it's coding.


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                    MY CODING
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                    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
                       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: [B]1K0 953 549 CH[/B]
                       Component: J0527           056 0111  
                       [B]Coding: 0001632[/B]
                    
                       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
                       Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H30 0036  
                       Coding: 00000131
                    
                    No fault code found.
                    
                    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
                       Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    [B]HW: 5N0 920 871 B[/B]
                       Component: KOMBI         H05 0206  
                       [B]Coding: 710E00[/B]
                       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
                       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
                    
                    No fault code found.
                    Last edited by YellowLemon; 05-07-2014, 02:28 AM. Reason: add scan
                    - 2011 Multivan T5.2 - 2,0L 135kW BiTDI. Mod info here
                    - 2008 Tiguan 5N 103TDI 4MOTION. Mods: RNS510 | Colour MFD | MFSW | LED tail lights | Mirror LED | Footwell LED

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                    • #11
                      Hello YellowLemon, first of all thank you for your helpful information and support.

                      Here is my coding:

                      Code:
                      Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
                         Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CJ    [B]HW: 1K0 953 549 CJ[/B]
                         Component: J0527           056 0111  
                         [B]Coding: 0001132[/B]
                         Shop #: WSC 02244 264 181995
                         VCID: 7CFC439A3FF0469
                      
                         Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
                         Component: E0221           002 0030
                      
                      No fault code found.
                      
                      
                      Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
                         Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 C    [B]HW: 5N0 920 871 C[/B]
                         Component: KOMBI         H05 0305  
                         Serial number: 00000000000000
                         [B]Coding: 110F00[/B]
                         Shop #: WSC 01324 020 00200
                         ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04052
                         ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod
                         VCID: 3162A2AE60327B1
                      
                      No fault code found.
                      Now, I have some questions and considerations...
                      • Comparing both scans it seems that I have an older version of SWCM and a higher version, sw and hw, of CLUSTER, so I think the culprit is the SWCM.
                      • AFAIK you should have both indicators, icon on the MFD and green light on the speedo, but this can be a wrong information and should be confirmed by someone else that has a stock CC fully working.
                      • Where have you found what the coding of cluster mean? On Ross-tech site they discourage change the coding and they don't give other information, so I'd exclude it as the problem, but just out of curiosity.
                      • I've checked the adaption option of channel 17-Instruments and at the Cruise control display channel it says "Channel not available", could you check what it says yours?

                      Cheers.

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                      • #12
                        It seems from autoscans we have same SWCM SW 0111 and you have slightly newer SWCM part number 1K0 953 549 CJ, I have CH (I got from ebay). (Link http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...odule_Versions )

                        Also cluster is same part number (C is for petrol and B is for diesel I think) and you have newer SW version. When I go to Adaptation -> Cruise control display I also get "Channel not available" just like you.

                        So difference must be just coding??? Or maybe it is to do with ECU instead??? I suggest you try coding your cluster to region "AUSTRALIA" for an experiement. This should be OK, you can change it back. This is my cluster coding:

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                        - 2011 Multivan T5.2 - 2,0L 135kW BiTDI. Mod info here
                        - 2008 Tiguan 5N 103TDI 4MOTION. Mods: RNS510 | Colour MFD | MFSW | LED tail lights | Mirror LED | Footwell LED

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                        • #13
                          Ok, I'll try coding the instruments to Australia and see what happens...

                          I have another question about the scans difference: why I don't have any subsystem in my steering wheel channel that you instead have? What is a subsystem?

                          How can we check if the difference is between ECU? Have you changed yours? Because otherwise mine should be newer than yours, but again I read of other people who has a my2009 and the cc display on MFD.

                          Thanks.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Toki View Post
                            why I don't have any subsystem in my steering wheel channel that you instead have? What is a subsystem?
                            The subsystem in this case is the little slave controller box inside the MFSW under the airbag which connects the buttons and paddles in the steering wheel. In mk6 it runs on LIN2.0 bus and connects to SWCM through slipring/clockspring. If you have MFSW buttons (even mk5 style) then you should also see subsystem in VCDS I believe????

                            Originally posted by Toki View Post
                            How can we check if the difference is between ECU? [..] mine should be newer than yours, but again I read of other people who has a my2009 and the cc display on MFD.
                            Yes sorry I don't think it's ECU. Everything else electric on my car is original old Mk5 style. Just SWCM and MFSW and CLUSTER (and RNS510 and 9W7 BLUETOOTH retrofit etc...)
                            - 2011 Multivan T5.2 - 2,0L 135kW BiTDI. Mod info here
                            - 2008 Tiguan 5N 103TDI 4MOTION. Mods: RNS510 | Colour MFD | MFSW | LED tail lights | Mirror LED | Footwell LED

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                            • #15
                              My full scan:

                              Code:
                              [SIZE=1]
                              VCDS Version: 14.6.0.0
                              Data version: 20140601
                              
                              Chassis Type: 5N (1K0)
                              
                              VIN: WVGZZZ5NZ8W******   Mileage: 0km-0miles
                              
                              01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
                              02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
                              03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
                              04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
                              08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
                              09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
                              15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
                              16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
                              17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
                              19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
                              22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
                              25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
                              37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
                              42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
                              44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
                              46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
                              52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
                              53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
                              56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
                              62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
                              72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
                              77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
                               
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 01: Engine (CBA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBA.clb
                                 Part No SW: 03L 906 022 AA    HW: 03L 906 022 G
                                 Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  1998  
                                 Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWX7Z0H33NE115
                                 Coding: 0000175
                                 Shop #: WSC 83968 930 682118
                                 VCID: 64C716FDA7038D1A8F-8031
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 09G 927 750 FD    HW: 09G 927 750 FD
                                 Component: AQ 250 6F           1124  
                                 Revision: 00H76000    Serial number:               
                                 Coding: 0000328
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 78FF528D0B8B79FA33-802D
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-517.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 614 517 K    HW: 5N0 614 517 K
                                 Component: J104    C2 450 V1   0006  
                                 Revision: --H11---    Serial number: 00000001024357
                                 Coding: 0006434
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 36639CB5411F4F8AE1-8063
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HM    HW: 1K0 820 047 HM
                                 Component: Climatic PQ35   142 1111  
                                 Revision: 00142031    Serial number: 00000000000000
                                 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
                                 VCID: 76E35CB5019F0F8A21-8023
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-M.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AH    HW: 3C0 937 049 AH
                                 Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
                                 Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 01000008240707
                                 Coding: A4880B8300041C004719000014000000000958435C000114390000000000
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 6FED69D17EC53E42E2-803A
                              
                                 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
                                 Component: Wischer 250308  012 0203  
                                 Coding: 00038805
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324  
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 A    HW: 5N0 959 655 A
                                 Component: J234__202 VW10 HI   1815  
                                 Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039DP6KDB3H  
                                 Coding: 0012338
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 3B758D817A3D92E21E-806E
                              
                                 Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS634260798 
                              
                                 Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS651540788 
                              
                                 Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6CDHVSVNH 
                              
                                 Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS61C6TSVNP 
                              
                                 Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
                              
                                 Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
                                 Component: J0527           056 0111  
                                 Coding: 0001632
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 7AFB488535876BEA45-802F
                              
                                 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
                                 Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H30 0036  
                                 Coding: 00000131
                                 Shop #: WSC 00000  
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    HW: 5N0 920 871 B
                                 Component: KOMBI         H05 0206  
                                 Serial number: 00000000000000
                                 Coding: 710E00
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
                                 ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
                                 VCID: 306FAAAD6B7B61BABB-8065
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
                                 Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L    HW: 1K0 907 951 
                                 Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0052  
                                 Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 070408F1003730
                                 Coding: FD827F064006026003
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 306FAAADA37B61BABB-8065
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 22: AWD        Labels: None
                                 Part No SW: 0AY 907 554 B    HW: 0AY 907 554 B
                                 Component: Haldex 4Motion      0039  
                                 Coding: 0000005
                                 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
                                 VCID: 4A9BD84525E73B6A95-801F
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 920 871 B    HW: 5N0 920 871 B
                                 Component: IMMO          H05 0206  
                                 Serial number: VWX7Z0H33NE115
                                 ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
                                 ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE36.rod
                                 VCID: 306FAAAD6B7B61BABB-8065
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
                                 Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 F    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
                                 Component: RNS-MID       H61 3970  
                                 Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L9365009
                                 Coding: 00000440010000A00009
                                 Shop #: WSC 00229 211 17803
                                 VCID: 3169AFA9687168B2B4-8064
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 959 701     HW: 5N0 959 701 
                                 Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
                                 Coding: 0000758
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 72EB60A56DF713AA0D-8027
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: None
                                 Part No: 5N2 909 144 A
                                 Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.163 H08 1902  
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 3169AFA9A87168B2B4-8064
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
                                 Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
                                 Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0205  
                                 Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
                                 Coding: 9A800A0052834C3F3F04840560089F0B80F940
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 03053561424D2A2216-8056
                              
                                 Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
                              
                                 Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
                              
                                 Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 959 702     HW: 5N0 959 702 
                                 Component: Tuer-SG         006 1206  
                                 Coding: 0000758
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 73E565A112ED1AA206-8026
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 5N0-907-801.clb
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 907 801 B    HW: 5N0 907 801 B
                                 Component: J540 EPB3  VW-09384 0005  
                                 Revision:   H08       Serial number: 00000000054219
                                 Coding: 0000057
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
                                 VCID: 2E53B4D5B94F774AA9-807B
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
                                 Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 F    HW: 1T0 035 680 H
                                 Component: RNS-MID       H61 3970  
                                 Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7L9365009
                                 Coding: 00000440010000A00009
                                 Shop #: WSC 00229 211 17803
                                 VCID: 3169AFA9687168B2B4-8064
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 959 703     HW: 5N0 959 703 
                                 Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
                                 Coding: 0000208
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 1012551
                                 VCID: 74E766BD17E31D9A1F-8021
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
                                 Part No SW: 5N0 959 704     HW: 5N0 959 704 
                                 Component: Tuer-SG         006 1301  
                                 Coding: 0000208
                                 Shop #: WSC 01324 785 1012551
                                 VCID: 75E15BB91C99049228-8020
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
                              -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
                                 Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K    HW: 7P6 035 730 K
                                 Component: TELEFON       H15 3200  
                                 Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007662931648
                                 Coding: 0210000000010110
                                 Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
                                 ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
                                 ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
                                 VCID: 3A7B8885BD07ABEA05-806F
                              
                              No fault code found.
                              
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                              - 2008 Tiguan 5N 103TDI 4MOTION. Mods: RNS510 | Colour MFD | MFSW | LED tail lights | Mirror LED | Footwell LED

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