Navigation RNS510, Bluetooth 9W7, and RVCamera installed in 2008 Tiguan

[Dr freedom]

I would try it with 1 antenna only & vica versa for each antenna plug in the back of the unit. Failing that I would try the booster.

[whiskywallah]

I would try it with 1 antenna only & vica versa for each antenna plug in the back of the unit. Failing that I would try the booster.

I think you'll find that's exactly what I did.
The ANS 810 has one antenna input and a short adaptor cable to allow a Fakra plug to be used.
The first half of the dual Fakra plug in the car is the one that fits the adaptor from the back of the ANS.
It gives OK FM and only the faintest glimmer of AM on 576kHz.

I modified the adaptor and tried the other half of the dual Fakra.
It gave zero FM or AM.
Switching back put me back to square 1.

So I don't know where the 2 antenna cables come from; I presume one goes to the shark in and the other to the heated rear window.
If I can find a reasonably priced antenna booster I might try it or I might just wait for a DAB+ module to appear.

[YellowLemon]

I don't know where the 2 antenna cables come from; I presume one goes to the shark in and the other to the heated rear window.

If you are looking face-on at the dual-fakra connector from the car, the left side goes to rear window (FM only) and the right side goes to roof (AM+FM)

[Dr freedom]

I still think you need to do what the Audi guys do.
Poor FM & next to zero AM is the exact same symptoms they get when they fit the RNSe unit.
In a nutshell, the unit itself doesnt work with the 2 antennas connected, the arial system needs to be changed to one that suits the new unit.
Just about every Audi forum I read has people doing it.. do some reading on RNSE retrofits, probably not the answer you want, the issues you are experiencing are the same though, you may find it helps.

[YellowLemon]

I plan to fix the dual-FAKRA plastic connector as detailed in another post. Link:

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f78/antenna-adapter-rns510-ebay-56424.html#post837741

UPDATE: I bought the antenna adapter, and tried to put the original car SMA plugs (without the plastic bits because I snapped them off) into the adapter's dual-fakra plastic case. Result = fail. The metal SMA plugs in the car are a difference shape and don't fit in the adapter's white plastic dual-FAKRA housing. Because using the adapter would cause a considerable loss of signal from the aerial, (by adding further interconnects, each extra connection causes reflection of signal and up to 3dB signal loss) I decided to just shove the SMA plugs into the back of the RNS510 without their little plastic cases. They hold securely enough: the SMA connectors are pretty good by themselves, not sure why the extra FAKRA plastic surround is needed in the first place......

[victorwong]

hi guys,

I have a tiguan 09 with RCD 510 and red mfd.

I want to buy the 9w7 kit to install in my car so that i have bluetooth and make call using the LCD (of course answering using the steering wheel button)
so looked at the linkhttp://www.carsystems.pl/vw-bluetooth-kit-7p6035730f-retrofit,id219.html which sell 9w7 at a good price.

I am good at wiring and stuff. but have no idea about VAS/VCDS coding. what are they. do i have to buy extra cable for coding, or can i just buy the bluetooth kit plug and play.
cost i am now familiar with the software stuff.

please advise

[tigger73]

I have a tiguan 09 with RCD 510 and red mfd.

I want to buy the 9w7 kit to install in my car so that i have bluetooth and make call using the LCD (of course answering using the steering wheel button)
so looked at the linkhttp://www.carsystems.pl/vw-bluetooth-kit-7p6035730f-retrofit,id219.html which sell 9w7 at a good price.

I would check on the VW Car Audio and Electronics section that 9w7 is compatible with red MFD. I'm not sure you're going to get all the features that you're hoping for.

Also it depends on the version of RCD 510 as there is a "basic" and "premium" version which come out of different factories. The "Premium" unit is made by Bosch and part# is 5K0 035 190 A.

My understanding is that you need the "premium" RCD 510 unit, 9w7 bluetooth and white MFD to get all the bluetooth functionality "happening" (plus some recoding of functions/enable options using VCDS).

For details on coding see VCDS Technical Resources

If you have the basic 510 and red MFD you may be better off going for a "cheaper" bluetooth unit - as I don't think these devices support all the functionality that the 9w7 supports. Unless of course you're considering upgrading the other components at a later date.

Yes the carsystems ebay seller is apparently quite good. I haven't used him personally but many others have.

[YellowLemon]

The 9w7 is not compatible with the red MFD and does not work with the "Telephone" button on the wheel in cars with the red MFD. You don't need the MFD or button to work as long as your rcd510 is compatible, or just buy an rns510 and install it too while you're at it.

If you desperately need the button to work you need one of the older XXX XXX 729 C bt units which are difficult to find and much more expensive than the 9w7 due to rarity, have compatibility issues with some phones (possibly newer iphones etc) and may not support phonebook download.

The extra cost of the 729 unit is better spent on an rns510 upgrade I say - then you will get full 9w7 functionality via the rns510 (it won't matter that the red mfd and button aren't compatible because you will use the rns screen)

[Toki]

@YellowLemon

Great DIY!

Since I'm going to do the same retrofit, I have some questions:

Do I need to disassemble the door sill to ran the harness along it? Have you taken some photos about the process?

How can I remove the A pillar trim without breaking anything? Photo about this process?

Last one, do you think that with the climatronic I can put the BT module into the dash under the radio, behind the climatronic control? Is there any problem like BT module going to be hot or anything like that?

Regards.