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    I drove a Singapore spec Tiguan 155TSI the other day. Never got around to penning my thoughts but it's a lazy Sunday. So, here goes.

    The Singapore spec is a fair bit different in options than the Australia spec. Even if you check all the options, you won't find the MFD Premium on the Australian version. That actually looks very very nice and upmarket. No idea why we don't have that as an option. it's a higher resolution screen and in full color like some of the Audi's.

    The Singapore spec doesn't have many options. In part because most of the options we have are already standard in the 155 model.

    Panoramic glass sunroof. Tick
    Bixenon with LED DRL. Tick
    MFD Premium. Tick
    Reverse camera. Tick
    RNS510. Tick
    Keyless Start and Go. Tick (we don't get that either)

    They also come standard with
    - Programmable tilting side mirror when Reverse is engaged and
    - Sports Suspension but not ACC

    Are these standard in the Aus spec? Pretty useful the tilting side mirror.

    The leather is locally fitted so there's no electric drivers seat. I think the Aus leather option also adds the leather wrapped/stitched wheel (at least according to the worldwide Tiguan brochure I got, that was printed in Germany and covers the complete range)

    Anyway, back to the driving.

    I made the mistake of driving a friend's Scirocco R to the test drive. I suspect this might have colored my impressions.

    The Tiguan sits a fair bit higher obviously. I actually found it more of a chore climbing in vs the Golf or even the lower Scirocco.

    Inside, the seats were comfortable. Sports seats are a bit of a misnomer. The side bolsters are not as pronounced like in the GTI. But I guess I might have been spoilt silly by the other cars I have been driving.

    That said, I can see myself driving very long distances on this car though. It's very comfortable inside.

    Anyway, with the 17" and sports suspension, the ride is firm but not uncomfortable. Nowhere as harsh as the Scirocco on 19s I had been driving earlier. The car stays fairly flat through corners. Not as much roll as I was expecting for such a tall car. And the seat in the back was quite comfortable despite my driving a bit more exuberantly.

    In Auto mode, the acceleration seemed quite dismal. I am quite used to a BSR tuned MkV GTI and had just been driving the Scirocco R so that comment needs to be tempered. That said, the power delivery is not dissimilar to the GolfR I had driven the previous night. I think the 4Motion and the heavier chassis does definitely result in this lethargy.

    In S mode or with manual gear changes, the car is a tad more responsive. I suspect a reflash might help the low end response more like what the R guys are doing. Not sure if that's what I'll end up doing though. Will need more time to get used to the car.

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    Originally posted by DoggieHowser View Post
    I drove a Singapore spec Tiguan 155TSI the other day. Never got around to penning my thoughts but it's a lazy Sunday. So, here goes.

    The Singapore spec is a fair bit different in options than the Australia spec. Even if you check all the options, you won't find the MFD Premium on the Australian version. That actually looks very very nice and upmarket. No idea why we don't have that as an option. it's a higher resolution screen and in full color like some of the Audi's.

    The Singapore spec doesn't have many options. In part because most of the options we have are already standard in the 155 model.

    Panoramic glass sunroof. Tick
    Bixenon with LED DRL. Tick
    MFD Premium. Tick
    Reverse camera. Tick
    RNS510. Tick
    Keyless Start and Go. Tick (we don't get that either)

    They also come standard with
    - Programmable tilting side mirror when Reverse is engaged and
    - Sports Suspension but not ACC

    Are these standard in the Aus spec? Pretty useful the tilting side mirror.

    The leather is locally fitted so there's no electric drivers seat. I think the Aus leather option also adds the leather wrapped/stitched wheel (at least according to the worldwide Tiguan brochure I got, that was printed in Germany and covers the complete range)

    Anyway, back to the driving.

    I made the mistake of driving a friend's Scirocco R to the test drive. I suspect this might have colored my impressions.

    The Tiguan sits a fair bit higher obviously. I actually found it more of a chore climbing in vs the Golf or even the lower Scirocco.

    Inside, the seats were comfortable. Sports seats are a bit of a misnomer. The side bolsters are not as pronounced like in the GTI. But I guess I might have been spoilt silly by the other cars I have been driving.

    That said, I can see myself driving very long distances on this car though. It's very comfortable inside.

    Anyway, with the 17" and sports suspension, the ride is firm but not uncomfortable. Nowhere as harsh as the Scirocco on 19s I had been driving earlier. The car stays fairly flat through corners. Not as much roll as I was expecting for such a tall car. And the seat in the back was quite comfortable despite my driving a bit more exuberantly.

    In Auto mode, the acceleration seemed quite dismal. I am quite used to a BSR tuned MkV GTI and had just been driving the Scirocco R so that comment needs to be tempered. That said, the power delivery is not dissimilar to the GolfR I had driven the previous night. I think the 4Motion and the heavier chassis does definitely result in this lethargy.

    In S mode or with manual gear changes, the car is a tad more responsive. I suspect a reflash might help the low end response more like what the R guys are doing. Not sure if that's what I'll end up doing though. Will need more time to get used to the car.
    Nice report, thanks Doggie

    Very interesting how VW treat different markets. I find it hard to believe that the inclusions for Singapore wouldnt be widely accepted in Australia. You just wonder who makes some of the strange corporate decisions on such matters.

    I found that my 132 has freed up considerably since I purchased it and am now approach the 5k level that I set to 'run in' the Tiggy before a visit to APR.

    Cheers

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    • #3
      I'd have agree with you mutare. Some of the decision making does seem strange. I mean when you have a range of models for a particular car, you kind of expect the top model to come with a lot of this stuff standard... leather, sat nav etc. You can get sensor key technology on a Holden Cruze. It is 2012 afterall.
      MY12 155TSI TIGUAN - Comfort Pack, Beige Leather, Sat Nav, Bi-Xenons, 18" New York Alloys, Park Assist 2.

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      • #4
        But just to give some perspective, the SG car costs almost A$170k.

        The certificate of entitlement (included in the car price) which entitles the owner to own that car for 10 years is currently more expensive than what I paid for the Tiguan with options > A$55k.

        In addition, the car is also taxed almost 100% of its value so the actual cost of the car imported into Singapore with said specs is also about 57k.

        But man, why do we have to wait for the car

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        • #5
          Well I don't have any date as yet. So frustrating. Making for sleepless nights.. hahaha

          ---------- Post added at 06:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:22 PM ----------

          I was going to ask about the price. That's insane!! Guess we can't complain too much then.
          MY12 155TSI TIGUAN - Comfort Pack, Beige Leather, Sat Nav, Bi-Xenons, 18" New York Alloys, Park Assist 2.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DoggieHowser View Post
            But just to give some perspective, the SG car costs almost A$170k.

            The certificate of entitlement (included in the car price) which entitles the owner to own that car for 10 years is currently more expensive than what I paid for the Tiguan with options > A$55k.

            In addition, the car is also taxed almost 100% of its value so the actual cost of the car imported into Singapore with said specs is also about 57k.

            But man, why do we have to wait for the car
            Doggie

            Bloody Hell!!!! My 132 was a steal at 38k

            Cheers

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            • #7
              Great review Doggie, and I have a green eye of envy at some of the option on the SG spec Tig. Whilst I know I will love my Tig ( doesn't arrive till July) there will be some feature I am going to miss from my current XR5 Mondeo....keyless entry and start, active cruise control, color mfd ( albeit it being limited in features).

              With respect to the tilting side mirror on the passenger side, I thought this was standard across all VWs. Another feature I will miss.

              Nothing worse than someone waiting for something they love.....

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              • #8
                I drove both the 132 and the 155 on the weekend and the price difference didnt really seem worth it to me. The only option i wanted on either car was comfort pack

                With the deal i got the 155 was $4500 dearer then the 132 and the extras just didnt seem worth it. The seats, whilst they were nicer and certainly look better (cloth with alcantara in the 155), they werent that much nicer. The silver trims on the outside do really add to the appeal for me, but there is no reason i cant put them on my 132. Privacy glass, i plan on tinting my windows anyway so no biggie. Wheels, i can probably pay less for a second hand set than they ask from the factory so again, no real gain there.

                Performance wise i honestly couldnt feel the difference. Both cars drive extremely well and given i am going to get the car tuned the power difference didnt bother me. I think the only way you could tell the difference would be to put a stop watch on them

                Both cars handle extremely well and the 155 did feel firmer on the ground, but i put that down to the larger wheels, not the car itself.

                I am sure there are lots of people who are happy to pay the difference, and i honestly nearly did, but to me there just wasnt enough of a difference in the two cars to justify the extra dollars

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                • #9
                  The main difference to me is the transmission. I wanted the more robust DQ500 7 speed DSG and the 132 is currently limited to Tiptronic.

                  Had I gone for the manual, the 132 is definitely the one to go for.

                  The additional power for me wasn't that big of a deal although it was nice to get the same spec as the one in the GTI

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                  • #10
                    With all due respect you couldnt have looked to hard as nearly all 132's in NSW are the 7 speed DSG. The one i bought yesterday most certainly is, and the dealer had numerous others in stock. The Pacfic is tiptronic, but there are loads of DSG 132's around still

                    I should also add that your dealer didnt look to hard as i am pretty sure they can check stock Australia wide and should have been able to get a hold of one for you pretty easily

                    Or have i totally misunderstood your poet lol
                    Last edited by ido09s; 05-03-2012, 10:54 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DoggieHowser View Post
                      The main difference to me is the transmission. I wanted the more robust DQ500 7 speed DSG and the 132 is currently limited to Tiptronic.

                      Had I gone for the manual, the 132 is definitely the one to go for.

                      The additional power for me wasn't that big of a deal although it was nice to get the same spec as the one in the GTI

                      Actually the Tiptronic is the more robust gearbox. Very few issues with the tiptronics, many more with the DSGs ..... JMac (our local BNE VW specialist) has himself seen a few DSG issues but no Tiptronic issues on Tiguans.....
                      Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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                      • #12
                        What are the problems on the DSG?

                        Is there anything in particular to look out for?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ido09s View Post
                          What are the problems on the DSG?

                          Is there anything in particular to look out for?
                          Mechatronics unit is usually the big complaint.
                          It will either clunk on gear changes or hesitate/go into neutral under acceleration at low speeds or steeper inclines at low speeds.
                          My Tiguan TSI APR Stg2 + RPF1's

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                          • #14
                            thats going to suck lol Hopefully mine doesnt have that issue

                            Is it out with the DSG box to fix it?

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                            • #15
                              Not sure on the fix but i wouldn't want to have one out of warranty that requires fixing that's for sure.

                              Having said that, we only hear hte bad stories so probably 98% of them will be fine.
                              My Tiguan TSI APR Stg2 + RPF1's

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