Engine oil

[Guest001]

guys,

my oil light warning just flashing again, do you guys need to top up every year?

i'm on 24ish km and service was done at 14k km.



last year i was topped up using castrol edge sport 5w-30 but looks like they have changed to castrol edge titanium, has anyone using castrol edge titanium ?,are they the same product?

since shop is closed now, is it ok to drive with the light flashing? the oil just above minimum level last time i check

thanks in advance

I check mine every week whether I use the car or not Never know when a line may break or something else may happen.

I would never leave it for 2000k let alone 10,000k between checking Cant believe someone doing that

Here is a link to All VW APRROVED oils The numbered ones are the rating the Step ones are by brand alphabetically

https://drive.google.com/?usp=folder&authuser=0#folders/0B3CrNKR2GhrgQVZja2dkLTI4dGM

Petrol engines from 2009 ? can usually use 502/505 rated oil. Diesel with DPF must use 504/507 rated oil

However all except some Touregs and some others may use 504/507 without any problems.

I use Penrite ENVIRO+ in both cars as can be bought at Supercheap or Autobarn on special for about $65 against the dealer charging $93 for Castrol edge Professional Longlife

The Shell Ultra Extra is sometimes available in shops but is usually not there. Have been told by shop muppet that Helix ultra is the same Its not and not approved. You should always use an APPROVED oil as should you have an engine problem VW may do an oil test and should they find an anomaly may decline to pay.

Therefore to say ANY 504 oil is a bit misleading EG Nulon have an oil which they say is "SUITABLE" for VW Maybe but its not on the approved list as they dont want to pay the $$$$$$ to have it put through the approval tests.

Yes change the filter and sump plug as for $35 its not worth the angst of not doing it.
Why would you put 3 l of clean oil in with a litre of dirty stuff plus a dirty filter.

[brad]

Hi everyone
I have the same question, Just got Tiguan 155,22000Km have done, but the engine oil still has enough just seems very dark and smelled now. previous owner used to put hard to engine when start driving, not good for longlife to engine.
I want to change the engine oil, need to change the filter as well? what kind of engine oil is better? needs any additives to treats it better?
Thanks in advance
Lucas

Any 504.00 spec oil.
For the sake of ~$20 always change filter & sump plug washer.
Addittives not required

[Guest001]

Hi everyone
I have the same question, Just got Tiguan 155,22000Km have done, but the engine oil still has enough just seems very dark and smelled now. previous owner used to put hard to engine when start driving, not good for longlife to engine.
I want to change the engine oil, need to change the filter as well? what kind of engine oil is better? needs any additives to treats it better?
Thanks in advance

Lucas

Have a good read of info in reply 46

[MountainBikeMike]

Hey guys,

Been burning a bit oil since I got the car 3 months ago. So far I've filled an extra 4L in to it of Penrite Enviro+ 5W30. Its had about 5 long hard drives in that time. The oil light only came on once ages ago, and the rest of the times I just checked, it was at minimum so I filled it to max.... Anything suss? No oil in the driveway...

I saw this below on sale at Supercheap today with their Bathurst promotion. Has anyone used it and is it worth it considering ebay has the Penrite Enviro+ 5W30 for $65?

[Transporter]

Just be aware that there are 4 Penrite Enviro +5w30 engine oils, but only one has VW approval for VW504.00 .
You could try Enviro +5W40 it has approval 502.00 and 505.00 . It could resist more to oil burning.

[Guest001]

Hey guys,

Been burning a bit oil since I got the car 3 months ago. So far I've filled an extra 4L in to it of Penrite Enviro+ 5W30. Its had about 5 long hard drives in that time. The oil light only came on once ages ago, and the rest of the times I just checked, it was at minimum so I filled it to max.... Anything suss? No oil in the driveway...

I saw this below on sale at Supercheap today with their Bathurst promotion. Has anyone used it and is it worth it considering ebay has the Penrite Enviro+ 5W30 for $65?

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Does it have a VW Approval sticker on it???? I doubt it at that price
That package looks like its trying to imitate Penrite when its called Chickasaw

As Transporter says you can use Penrite Enviro + 5w-40 502/505 in a Petrol engine. Which is not the same as 5w-30 504/507 which must be used in an engine with a DPF ( Diesel)

I wouldn't use ANY oil which is not VW approved. I bought Enviro+ 5w-30 at $69 from Repco with a RACQ membership as it can be up to $90 RRP
Supercrap have Shell ULtra EXTRA 5w-30 504/507 for $67.49 in that catalogue That is an approved oil.

If you are using it now keep using it Good oil is cheaper than a new motor. Also if you use unapproved oil and then go to Skoda growling about excessive consumption they may not be very sympathetic

The pictured stuff wont be any good for your car at that price or in fact at any price.

Cant understand why people would buy a good car and then cut corners with cheap oil

[nat225]

i am not sure if anyone has a thought why vw recommends the vw504.00 oil.

anyone with the right technical knowledge should correct me as below is 100% my non technical imagination

with the direct injection engine, there is no fuel sprayed (as opposed to engines with port injectors) to wash the intake valves. yet, the intake valves do get in contact with oil via the blow by.

my hypothesis:

the vw504.00 approved oil supposedly has less tendency to become sludge. but over time and use, closer to the end of its 15,000km interval, it has accumulated enough contamination and lost its detergent element, hence it would turn into sludge easier (when caked in, it is called carbon build up).

the non504.00 oil however, would turn into sludge quicker, say near the end of its 7,500km use.

that's probably why the manual says 7,500km interval for vw502.00 oil and 15,000km for vw504.00 oil (per my 147TSI Tig and Mk6 GTI manual books).

so, the issue is still mainly on CARBON BUILD UP trouble, but reduced by using vw504.00 oil.

[MountainBikeMike]

i am not sure if anyone has a thought why vw recommends the vw504.00 oil.

anyone with the right technical knowledge should correct me as below is 100% my non technical imagination

with the direct injection engine, there is no fuel sprayed (as opposed to engines with port injectors) to wash the intake valves. yet, the intake valves do get in contact with oil via the blow by.

my hypothesis:

the vw504.00 approved oil supposedly has less tendency to become sludge. but over time and use, closer to the end of its 15,000km interval, it has accumulated enough contamination and lost its detergent element, hence it would turn into sludge easier (when caked in, it is called carbon build up).

the non504.00 oil however, would turn into sludge quicker, say near the end of its 7,500km use.

that's probably why the manual says 7,500km interval for vw502.00 oil and 15,000km for vw504.00 oil (per my 147TSI Tig and Mk6 GTI manual books).

so, the issue is still mainly on CARBON BUILD UP trouble, but reduced by using vw504.00 oil.

If this is correct, it would be worth the 20-30% extra cost of the 504... At this rate it looks like the car will drink $150-200 of oil a year! :/

[Transporter]

Cant understand why people would buy a good car and then cut corners with cheap oil

I agree, but very often (almost always) manufacturers allow that in the specs, where they will say that the engine is capable of being serviced with the lower grade oil, just to appeal to the fleet buyers. Very similar to the fuel specifications.

[MGV]

Just a bit of an observation:

I've tried the Shell, the Castrol, & the Penrite approved oils in my car, only using one or the other due to availability & they all seem to run at 100 to 103 on the temp display on the MFD.

Independent mechanic at the last service used the Fuchs Titan GT1 Pro C3 & the oil temp now sits between 97 & 100, or around 3 degrees cooler...

Just found it interestin' !

[Guest001]

If this is correct, it would be worth the 20-30% extra cost of the 504... At this rate it looks like the car will drink $150-200 of oil a year! :/

The 504/507 as I understand it is a low ash oil and therefore is suitable for DIESEL engines with a DPF. Oils with a higher ash content will ruin your DPF and cost $4000 to replace it

502/505 is suitable for petrol engines on 15000k or 12 month intervals which our petrol Polo gets serviced at.

504/507 is also for longlife service in petrol engines but this is not practiced in Australia.

I use 504/507 in both as its easier to have one oil in the garage and as both use 4 L I get a full top up every 4 services

Both mine run at 90C on the gauge all day every day.