Quarter Mile - APR Stage 1 vs Stock

[Guy_H]

Nice Run KR,

Actually I think you now hold the world record for a 125kw base Tig down the quarter mile.

Excellent & the Gauntlet is down for the Tig drag race challenge

[Sharkie]

I thought an R36 was a mid 13sec quarter mile car? Is there something different about the locally delivered ones?

Not sure what it is with the local R36s .... nobody in Oz that I can remember has posted a better time than a 14.4 .... and Wheels Magazine's April 2010 test resulted in a 15.3 ....

with a decent launch most mkv GTIs will do a low 14. So whilst a mid 14 is respectable time for a soft roader its not going to be eating every second car on the road. The trap speed seems a bit low too. Most GTIs tend to get up in the high 90s dont they?

No stock GTI (Mk5 or 6 ) has posted a better time than 14.6 (Mk6) .... and as KR said, the best of the chipped ones (DSG with launch control) I've seen was a 13.8

R32s are doing 14.5s in DSG with higher trap speeds but slower 60ft times.

The size and weight of the Tig counts against it a bit .... this only really shows up at the strip as on the street where you typically don't get to run to 160km/h, the Tigs quick off the mark pace actually has it beating most other cars out there ....

[jimbomort]

yes well done KR and those times also show just how good a base 125 is. The extra torque and torque spread over its SUV counterparts make the 125 a much punchier engine than its power figures (125kw) would suggest

yes the R20 is a golf, a replacement for the R32

[Tim]

Not sure what it is with the local R36s .... nobody in Oz that I can remember has posted a better time than a 14.4 .... and Wheels Magazine's April 2010 test resulted in a 15.3 ....

Interesting. Thats a pretty big discrepancy. Maybe there is something in the launch control?

No stock GTI (Mk5 or 6 ) has posted a better time than 14.6 (Mk6) .... and as KR said, the best of the chipped ones (DSG with launch control) I've seen was a 13.8

Sorry I should have been more clear. I was talking chipped tiggy vs chipped GTI.

R32s are doing 14.5s in DSG with higher trap speeds but slower 60ft times.

Everyone knows that R32s are slower than their turbo charged brethren given a few tweeks

[krracing]

I reckon I can rule out 4motion as a reason for the low trap speed...

@ Half track, compared to most R32's the Tig is ~2mph down
@ Full track, they are 6mph down!! Huge losses in latter half

Conclusion: it has to be a combination of shear dimensional size/stance and a slight headwind


How can we make the Tig more aero!?
Fold wing mirrors in is a start.......

[Sharkie]

Sorry I should have been more clear. I was talking chipped tiggy vs chipped GTI.

I think looking at the 60ft times, you'd find the Tigs ahead, with the weight and size then counting against them over the rest of the run ....

Mmmm, maybe a CF bonnet etc to fix that weight problem .....

[krracing]

haha, i like it
"Carbon Fibre, the final frontier..."

how bout a good wax job before the 1/4mile run!? cheaper too..

lowered would help aero, and perhaps a front splitter - less turbulence

have we taken it too far now!? where do you draw the line.......


Probably out of the question to strip the inside of the car - the seats do weigh a fair chunk though

[clip]

hmm, weight is the killer for the Tig. Carbon fibre rear hatch would help - that weighs a tonne. Or maybe just strip out the frontwheel drive?

[geoff_gti]

Good work KR! A rematch is due

[krracing]

http://www.dragtimes.com/Volkswagen-...lip-20609.html

[Sharkie]

Some times from other events in Oz ....

Polo GTI with quite a few mods including suspension, tyres, ECU, DP & FMIC = 14.30

08 Golf GTI DSG APR - 14.29

so KRracing's Tiguan with only an ECU doing pretty good at 14.5 ....

and

147TSI APR auto in the USA did a 14.8

[noone]

Nice times!

I think that taking off +1 second on a quarter mile is a massive achievement for not modifying the car mechanically.

[adzy]

Some times from other events in Oz ....

Polo GTI with quite a few mods including suspension, tyres, ECU, DP & FMIC = 14.30

08 Golf GTI DSG APR - 14.29

so KRracing's Tiguan with only an ECU doing pretty good at 14.5 ....

and

147TSI APR auto in the USA did a 14.8

08 GTI DSG, 14.29........... where do you find such figures?

Will see what times a Stage2 cand achieve soon.. Nice time for the Tiguan too!!