Hyundai ix35 vs. Tiguan

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We've had a Hyundai (2003 Getz) and the drive was aweful

I hired a new Getz to drive from Melbourne to Philip Island in 2007. To say it was an aweful drive is an understatment. I could not believe this was a 2007 model vehicle. It felt at least a 20 year old design in performance, handling, comfort, noise, gearbox, brakes - in fact every aspect. Coincidently, I also drove an Austin 1800 that same weekend at the island. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they were around the late 60's. A much better drive than the getz!

As for the extra's in the Allday, I doubt it would have more than a Tig with comfort pack. It's all the little extra's in the Tig that add up to making it such a friendly, convenient and well thought out design. You probably don't know what half of them are unless you've drivien one for a while, but I'm sure I could list just some of the more unusal ones for you (feel free to add anything else that I've forgetten guys):

Interior features:
- discreet ambience lighting (including roof mounted LED's, interior door handles and footwell lighting that is programable),
- auto tinting anti-glare rear vision mirror for night drving
- parking sensors
- programable power windows (inc ALL windows with auto close/open function if desired)
- controlable power windows from key remote (ability to open/close windows remotely away from the car)
- rain sensing wipers
- auto variable positioning wiper park (to avoid blade damage from inactivity)
- programable door locking, including deadlock system
- auto headlights
- programable "coming home" and "leaving home" headlights
- theatre style rear seating (elevated rear passenger seat height for better visability, unlike the allday's rising beltline that results in poor outward visibility when seated in the rear)
- adjustable rear seating forward and backwards
- one touch indicators for lane changing (flashes 3 times and then stops)
- passenger seatbelt warning when passanger is seated - or a sixpack
- dual zone climate control (that actually works - amazing!)
- auto hold braking system (for hill starts etc), also automatically activiates hand brake when engine switched off.
- steering wheel adjustable for both reach and tilt
- head unit graphic display when reverse parking
- multi function display that can dispay everything from radio station and volume settings to trip computer, fuel consumption and all available electronic programable features.

I'm sure there are other things I've forgotten. Of course there are all the other standards like numerous airbags, adjustable seat belts, glove box cooler etc. that everything else has these days. I suspect the difference may just be in the obvious stuff like being able to plug your iPod into the stereo and having 10 crappy speakers instead of 8. Of course the allday does have a start button, and does have elecric operated seats even in the base model.

But then there's the safety aspects such as the roll over strength of the Tig compared to other SUVs - I'm sure you've seen the youtube example.

I guess at the end of the day, do you really want to be seen driving an "allday, everyday"? - and hey, they said it, not me

The good thing is that the choice is yours, and that you have one. Good luck!

[Timbo]

B#ggered if I'm going to defend Hyundias -- I'd never buy one, or any SUV for that matter. And I agree the Getz is crap -- had one as a rental -- it's a 7+ yo design now.

My point is that the new Hyundais are a marked improvement: the i30 has been winning awards; and I think you'll find the ix35 picks up a few, too. clip, you need to study the ix35's spec sheet. It has quite a bit of that gear, some of which is optional on the Tig

Yes, I'll bet the buying experience is worse: these are much lower margin cars than VWs, so dealers don't have the fat to offer more. But there is that warranty and don't be misled by the roadside assist -- you can actually buy better service from RACx/NRMA. Most of these "included" services are supplied by Mondial who, IME, are just average at best.

If I was after a diesel SUV, I couldn't omit the ix35 from the list very easily. In fact, it would probably end up a shoot-out with the Tig

[DieselTig]

I only have to say one thing about the Tig. It drives, handles better and out performs my older Xtrail and I reckon the Xtrail is even better than the Hyundai. My friend has one (Hyundai)and now wants to get rid of it to get a Tig. Enough said.

[pol280]

Choose safety!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc1ZDdgMVo4

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/roof/detailsbyclass.aspx?58

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the i30 has been winning awards; and I think you'll find the ix35 picks up a few, too. clip, you need to study the ix35's spec sheet. It has quite a bit of that gear, some of which is optional on the Tig

winning awards out here (Wheels, RACQ, NRMA etc etc), has nothing to do with quality, design or anything else much improtant. It always comes down to price point and who provides the best lunches and theatre/sports tickets.

some ix35 reviews, just for balance:

Ride & Handling
3 out of 5 stars
Although it's not as agile as rivals such as the VW Tiguan, the ix35 handles well ...but the ride is firm, with some jiggle over city streets and a bit too much bounce on bumpy roads


Refinement
2 out of 5 stars
This is the ix35's weakest area. The diesel engine is noisier than many rivals' and it's boomy when pushed. Even when you're cruising in sixth gear there's a steady drone. Road- and wind noise are also present at speed – the overall effect is that you might find yourself turning the stereo up uncomfortably loud to compensate.

Quality & Reliability
3 out of 5 stars
The ix35's dashboard is stylish, but it's a shame that the plastics aren't as appealing as its design. Unlike many rivals there's not a soft-touch plastic in sight.

Performance
3 out of 5 stars
The other major disappointment was that the CDi lacks a manual (unlike competitors). Also, for those that have never owned a turbo car, the lag isn’t just a minor inconvenience, but it's a real safety risk. I timed the ix35 from off pedal to flat to the floor and it took 3 seconds for power to arrive fully.

[Sanman]

The Hyundais have come up in the quality stakes, but then they have also increased their pricing, which was previously their strong suite.
The basic rule still applies - sell a Hyundai before the warranty expires - ie at 4.5 years.
So, if you're on a 4 year lease, then that's all fine, but then, the residuals will mean that the Tiguan will still be cheaper repayments.
I'm struggling to find a case where you'd buy a slightly cheaper Hyundai, unless you're flat strapped for cash, and must have a new SUV. Then, you might as well throw caution to the wind and buy a Tucson City $22k driveaway.

[Timbo]

So o o....in 12 mths time, will Hyundai have sold more ix35's in Australia that VW has sold Tigs? I think so!

[team_v]

Maybe,

Hyundai have just announced a recall of a large number of Sonata's in US and Asia as their door locking mechanism has been failing.
Just caught the article on the news.


The sales will probably be the cheapy option though as for $25k it would be hard to find a car that is comparable.
If you get up to the low 30's, you may as well spend another couple of grand and get a better quality vehicle.

[jimbomort]

Sante Fe

I still dont understand understand why all the discussion in this thread is limited to IX35 vs Tig, when Sante Fe is not that different in price - personally I think it should be part of it. Has anyone driven the new Sante fe?

An alternative option of course can be second hand. There are reasons against it, but as one out of the box, if you are looking at spending around $40k you can get a BMW X5 or Mercedes ML series in good nick, only 5-6 years old with well less than 100thou on the clock for that money. Be interesting to know how they would compare, though I personally wouldn't go an ML, they may have improved but the ML series is known to have some electrical and other problems, you dont want those out of warranty.

Again depends on what you want and how long you intend to keep, if for a long time a newer car looks better, but if only wanting to keep for a few years, 'low' klm, second hand with good service history is not a bad option.

[Transporter]

I still dont understand understand why all the discussion in this thread is limited to IX35 vs Tig, when Sante Fe is not that different in price - personally I think it should be part of it. Has anyone driven the new Sante fe?

An alternative option of course can be second hand. There are reasons against it, but as one out of the box, if you are looking at spending around $40k you can get a BMW X5 or Mercedes ML series in good nick, only 5-6 years old with well less than 100thou on the clock for that money. Be interesting to know how they would compare, though I personally wouldn't go an ML, they may have improved but the ML series is known to have some electrical and other problems, you dont want those out of warranty.

Again depends on what you want and how long you intend to keep, if for a long time a newer car looks better, but if only wanting to keep for a few years, 'low' klm, second hand with good service history is not a bad option.

Hmm what about running cost of that ML or X5?
Like insurance, repairs, servicing and so on, a new car has at least 3 years peace of mind warranty and it is new.

Just my 2c.

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I still dont understand understand why all the discussion in this thread is limited to IX35 vs Tig, when Sante Fe is not that different in price -

because it's too big for this compact SUV category Jimbo.

So o o....in 12 mths time, will Hyundai have sold more ix35's in Australia that VW has sold Tigs? I think so!

depends entirely on the price. If it's priced at the $40k mark (like that new KIA SUV - and who on earth is going to spend $40k on a KIA of any type? ), then I suspect they will be shooting themselves in the foot. If they keep it cheap though, they will sell loads.

[T&M]

Back on topic - It doesn't matter how you slice it and dice it - historically, what great car has EVER come out of Korea.
Not long ago all their cars had 4 legs and towed carts full of rice. Gimme a break!

[sawters]

yep

Back on topic - It doesn't matter how you slice it and dice it - historically, what great car has EVER come out of Korea.
Not long ago all their cars had 4 legs and towed carts full of rice. Gimme a break!

Which is why i spent the $$$$ and went the VW!

worth every cent i think

[T&M]

Which is why i spent the $$$$ and went the VW!

worth every cent i think

Well done! Couldn't agree more.

[Timbo]

Not long ago all their cars had 4 legs and towed carts full of rice. Gimme a break!

Ah...(cough)...many VWs are built in Sth Africa, Skodas from the Czech Republic -- both of which have been building cars for less time than Sth Korea.

Hey, I don't particularly like the ix35, but I reckon it offers excellent value for money if you have needs in that class. Equally, one of the challenges facing the Tig at the top end is the BMW X1