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  • #16
    Originally posted by dogbowl View Post
    These chips sound awesome. I have two questions:

    1. Can the chassis handle such power?
    2. What happens to your VW warranty?

    Thanks for your assistance.
    Chassis and drivetrain easily handles the power, remember our gearbox is the same as a GTI box and the drivetrain is the same as an R32 so they can cope with a LOT more than we can throw at it.

    With your warranty it will basically void the warranty on your ECU ONLY (so I'm led to believe from the dealer), that's if the VW techs actually discover it which is unlikely, not impossible but unlikely. If you get your car serviced at a specialist rather than a dealer, such as I do, and only take your Tig to the dealer for warranty issues it would be even more unlikely that they would discover it. It is a risk yes, but for me the benefit far outweighs that. It is obviously your choice to weigh up the pros and cons though.
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    Forever blowing bubbles.

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    • #17
      Interesting, thank you.
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      • #18
        I didnt think its the same gearbox as the gti. the gti has the dsg gearbox.

        Also, i believe if VW found it, they would void warranty not only on the ECU, but everything that is affected by the power increase, gear box, entire engine, suspension etc.

        All in all, ive chipped up my old xr6t to over 300rwkw and dealer never knew. Until my gearbox blew up
        09 VW Tiguan Black 125TSI Auto - RNS510, DynAudio, Mdi, Rear View Cam, BT, Sunroof, Cornsilk Leather, Comfort Pack, Side Steps, 18" NY Rims, Tow Bar, Mats, Tint
        12 VW Polo Pepper Grey 77TSi DSG - Sports Pack, RCD510 and Mdi iPod, Comfort Pack, Blutooth, Mats, Tint, Panoramic Sunroof

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Azzamataz View Post
          I didnt think its the same gearbox as the gti. the gti has the dsg gearbox.

          Also, i believe if VW found it, they would void warranty not only on the ECU, but everything that is affected by the power increase, gear box, entire engine, suspension etc.

          All in all, ive chipped up my old xr6t to over 300rwkw and dealer never knew. Until my gearbox blew up
          DSG is an option on the GTI, it comes with a manual box standard.
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          Forever blowing bubbles.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Azzamataz View Post
            I didnt think its the same gearbox as the gti. the gti has the dsg gearbox.

            Also, i believe if VW found it, they would void warranty not only on the ECU, but everything that is affected by the power increase, gear box, entire engine, suspension etc.

            All in all, ive chipped up my old xr6t to over 300rwkw and dealer never knew. Until my gearbox blew up
            In NZ the new Mk6 Golf has the DSG standard (as the auto) EXCEPT for the diesel which has the same box as the Tiguan, supposedly something to do with the Torque issue, though that seems strange based on some of the vehicles that have the DSG now !!

            Cheers
            Derek
            Alexandra
            2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
            Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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            • #21
              Originally posted by NZTiguan View Post
              In NZ the new Mk6 Golf has the DSG standard (as the auto) EXCEPT for the diesel which has the same box as the Tiguan, supposedly something to do with the Torque issue, though that seems strange based on some of the vehicles that have the DSG now !!

              Cheers
              That does seem strange considering the DSG is standard on the Pirelli GTI which has around the same torque as the diesel, only 20nm difference.
              2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
              Forever blowing bubbles.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Pullstarter View Post
                That does seem strange considering the DSG is standard on the Pirelli GTI which has around the same torque as the diesel, only 20nm difference.
                The only thing I can guess is that it's the fact that the diesel's torque comes in at much lower revs, but it does seem odd !!

                Cheers
                Derek
                Alexandra
                2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
                Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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                • #23
                  So the only auto option on the TDI golf VI is the 6 speed auto rather than the DSG in NZ? Just checking here and they offer it in DSG, only the 6spd though not the 7 spd.
                  Last edited by Pullstarter; 08-06-2009, 09:49 AM.
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                  Forever blowing bubbles.

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                  • #24
                    how did we get back onto diesels again?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pullstarter View Post
                      So the only auto option on the TDI golf VI is the 6 speed auto rather than the DSG in NZ? Just checking here and they offer it in DSG, only the 6spd though not the 7 spd.
                      Are you positive of that ? I may be wrong but I was certain I read somewhere that all the Ausi and NZ ones ONLY have 6 speed non-DSG with the Diesel.

                      Cheers

                      Update: Just checked the NZ site and you're right, it's 6 speed DSG on the 103TDi Golf IV. Wonder why 6 speed instead of 7 ? guess it just doesn't "need" 7 BUT you'd think it would be cheaper to keep them all the same wouldn't you ??

                      Cheers
                      Last edited by NZTiguan; 08-06-2009, 01:03 PM.
                      Derek
                      Alexandra
                      2022 R-Line Golf Mk8 in Kings Red Metallic
                      Previously 3 Tiguans 2008, 2013, 2017

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by NZTiguan View Post
                        Are you positive of that ? I may be wrong but I was certain I read somewhere that all the Ausi and NZ ones ONLY have 6 speed non-DSG with the Diesel.

                        Cheers

                        Update: Just checked the NZ site and you're right, it's 6 speed DSG on the 103TDi Golf IV. Wonder why 6 speed instead of 7 ? guess it just doesn't "need" 7 BUT you'd think it would be cheaper to keep them all the same wouldn't you ??

                        Cheers
                        I do remember reading somewhere that the hi torque/output motors (TDI and petrol GTI etc) were only going to use the 6spd, maybe the 7spd is a bit of an unkown quantity as yet?
                        2008 VRS Wagon. Yellow, very yellow!
                        Forever blowing bubbles.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
                          So the prototype I saw at APR went into your Tig then clip?
                          thought I'd better snavel it before you did! Can't tell you what a difference it makes, this is a must-have along with the chip.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by clip View Post
                            Just an update on what's been happening with my Tig - for those that are interested.

                            Had the Tig at Harding's Performance for the new APR tuning maps and torque arm insert.

                            All I can say is the APR software is bloody great. I have 4 main modes now,
                            (most of which I will probably not use very often, but still nice to have):
                            1. standard OEM map (125kW, 280Nm)
                            2. 98ron map (189kW, 410Nm) - now my "standard map"
                            3. valet mode - restricts the engine to about 4300rpm max (great for when my lead-foot sister-in-law drives it ).
                            4. security mode - car will start, but no accelerator/throttle control, car will only idle).

                            Thing that blows me away with all this is that it all works seamlessly with the car's systems and is fully integrated with existing controls. It could easily be a factory option.

                            As I've said before, the improved performance is just sensational - especially the torque. It's simply awesome and shows on the road in very practical day to day driving.

                            The torque arm insert has also made a big difference IMO - (crisper gear changes and much improved clutch take-up even on standard power setting).

                            I love it when things just "work".
                            Hi,

                            Went to see Volkspower in Burwood (Vic), who sell the APR ECU flashes. Dean there gave me the 6 hr trial.... makes a monumental difference!!! Will definately be getting it, (the standard 2 program option). If I purchase before June 30, I get a 10% discount.

                            Anyone thinking of getting the ECU flash for their GT Sport, they can now get one through APR. The technology has only been out a week for the GT's and apparently I'll be the third GT in the country to have it, (that's what the guy told me anyway).

                            See Dean at Volkspower in Burwood, very professional and informative, and I highly recomend them...

                            BTW: He advised APR are currently developing an Exhaust for the GT's, but aren't out yet. He said be careful as there are a lot of places that will sell you an exhaust, but will have no significant power gain. He knows a bloke that spent $4K on an exhaust, for a 4kw power gain. He said once the APR exhaust comes out, they'll have special exhaust ECU upgrade that will complement the exhaust...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by golfyvic View Post
                              He knows a bloke that spent $4K on an exhaust, for a 4kw power gain. He said once the APR exhaust comes out, they'll have special exhaust ECU upgrade that will complement the exhaust...
                              Nice having someone that knows what they're doing isn't it. Not holding my breath for a Tig one just yet though.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by clip View Post
                                Nice having someone that knows what they're doing isn't it. Not holding my breath for a Tig one just yet though.
                                APR exhaust and remap specific for it on the Golf GTI delivers 11kw extra.

                                I volunteered my Tig to take the prototype .....

                                That said, some other exhaust specialists can do good work. On my GTI I went elsewhere for a custom downpipe and cat and it made 11+kw atw difference.
                                Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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