Tuning Discussion - 132TSI / 162TSI

[MiiLos]

Tuning Discussion - 132TSI / 162TSI

I test drove the 162TSI a month ago and was very surprised by its feel on the road and how there was so little body roll for a SUV. That sold me and the fact it punches just as hard as my GTI. Will be getting it to Stage 1 not long after pickup I think [emoji16]

[Eyes24]

Will u not wait till after warranty before stage 1 up grade?
What does stage one up grade give you? And how much?


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[tigger73]

Will u not wait till after warranty before stage 1 up grade?
What does stage one up grade give you? And how much?

If you only keep your cars 3 years there's not much point waiting until warranty expires....

Stage 1 on the GTI takes it up to ~230-235 and I'd expect similar outputs from a flash tune for the Tiguan. The major benefit is that the Tiguan will have traction compared to the GTI which spends much of it's time spinning the front wheels.

Stage 2 on the Tiguan should take it to ~250kW and into 4's 0-100.

[Eyes24]

If you only keep your cars 3 years there's not much point waiting until warranty expires....

Stage 1 on the GTI takes it up to ~230-235 and I'd expect similar outputs from a flash tune for the Tiguan. The major benefit is that the Tiguan will have traction compared to the GTI which spends much of it's time spinning the front wheels.

Stage 2 on the Tiguan should take it to ~250kW and into 4's 0-100.

It's it a turbo upgrade or computer tune?


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[MiiLos]

Tiguan 162TSI R-line Deals

If you only keep your cars 3 years there's not much point waiting until warranty expires....

Stage 1 on the GTI takes it up to ~230-235 and I'd expect similar outputs from a flash tune for the Tiguan. The major benefit is that the Tiguan will have traction compared to the GTI which spends much of it's time spinning the front wheels.

Stage 2 on the Tiguan should take it to ~250kW and into 4's 0-100.

Ditto.. my last two cars I've had for about 5 between change. So you might as well enjoy the upgrades the complete time you have the car rather than only the back end of ownership. That way the investment is more worthwhile as well.

I had that mentality with my GTI.. then eventually got over the idea and never went through with it. Also I can't remember ever really reading about ECU upgrades actually resulting in warranty issues.


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[tigger73]

It's it a turbo upgrade or computer tune?

Stage 1 = ECU software only (235kW)
Stage 2 = ECU software + Dump Pipe (250kW)
Stage 3 = ECU software + Dump Pipe + Turbo Upgrade (IS38 turbo = 288kW)

Ditto.. my last two cars I've had for about 5 between change. So you might as well enjoy the upgrades the complete time you have the car rather than only the back end of ownership. That way the investment is more worthwhile as well.

I had that mentality with my GTI.. then eventually got over the idea and never went through with it. Also I can't remember ever really reading about ECU upgrades actually resulting in warranty issues.

Personally I would run the car in (possibly to first service), get the car fully checked over for any potential warranty issues for engine/drivetrain and then go for it.

Yes there is always a risk involved. If you only go stage 1 there's no hardware changes and it's possible to revert back to stock, however no guarantees that it won't be traceable.

For people that are worried about warranty then the tuning boxes have been proving popular in more recent times - things like JB1/JB4. Though gains are about half of the stagee1 tune and I don't think you're able to accommodate hardware modifications with these boxes so you're limited to mild gains only (but also at moderate cost).

[MiiLos]

Yes that was my thought process with regard to stage 1 upgrade. After first service.

Funnily even my mechanic recommended I take my misses Polo GTI to VW for the first service instead of going through him.


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[Mac135]

Stage 1 = ECU software only (235kW)
Stage 2 = ECU software + Dump Pipe (250kW)
Stage 3 = ECU software + Dump Pipe + Turbo Upgrade (IS38 turbo = 288kW)




Personally I would run the car in (possibly to first service), get the car fully checked over for any potential warranty issues for engine/drivetrain and then go for it.

That is what I've done in the past. Got the car bedded in with a few thousand k's on it and then done my mods. Had no issues with either GTI or the Scirocco. Plus you get that new car feeling all over again just as you are starting to become really familiar with it.

[Eyes24]

That is what I've done in the past. Got the car bedded in with a few thousand k's on it and then done my mods. Had no issues with either GTI or the Scirocco. Plus you get that new car feeling all over again just as you are starting to become really familiar with it.

Does it cost much for stage 1?


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[tigger73]

Does it cost much for stage 1?

Depends on which tuner you go with but typically stage 1 tunes are between $800 and $1,500.

Tuning boxes ~$500-$800.

[Eyes24]

Depends on which tuner you go with but typically stage 1 tunes are between $800 and $1,500.

Tuning boxes ~$500-$800.

Hmm good to know, thanks


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[Hole46]

If you only keep your cars 3 years there's not much point waiting until warranty expires....

Stage 1 on the GTI takes it up to ~230-235 and I'd expect similar outputs from a flash tune for the Tiguan. The major benefit is that the Tiguan will have traction compared to the GTI which spends much of it's time spinning the front wheels.

Stage 2 on the Tiguan should take it to ~250kW and into 4's 0-100.

Which tuning company would give you these numbers?
I want to tune my new Tiguan 162 after first service.


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[tigger73]

Which tuning company would give you these numbers?
I want to tune my new Tiguan 162 after first service.

I pulled these numbers off the APR site, however most decent tuners should be able to give you similar performance/outputs within +/-5kW.

[Chocolate_Bear]

I pulled these numbers off the APR site, however most decent tuners should be able to give you similar performance/outputs within +/-5kW.

Definetly will be keen to hear which tuner gives the Tiggy the best tune.


Tiguan 162tsi rline (May 2017) - NSW, Northern Beaches

[tigger73]

Different tuners will tune the cars slightly differently.

For example APR (which used to be big here in Aus) will hit the boost hard early and tail off towards redline. Whereas other tuners will be more linear and pull strongly to 6,000rpm.

I'm not sure what/if there's differences between the GTI software and that in the Tiguan, however it will probably take the tuners a little bit of time to develop Tiguan specific files. Hopefully it's not a complete rewrite and a lot of the development work that has already been done on other MQB platform cars can be lifted and used for the Tiguan.