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  • Originally posted by PDMJO View Post
    what a waste of great rims to be using them as the winter setup...
    Agree to a point but if they’re on the car for 5 months of the year then you may as well have something you enjoy. Plus I think these are 18’s so run a bigger sidewall tyre.


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    • Hi folks,


      Thanks for the inspiring wheel pics! I've finally just ordered a set of wheels, and am after some advice on tyres and tyre widths.


      Car: Tiguan Wolfsburg RLine
      Wheels: 20x10 et35
      Height: Stock height and stock springs. I don't intend to lower, or if lower in the future, it will be maximum 30mm


      Some questions I have on tyres:
      1) I'd like to run a 275 (or maybe even 285) rear. But I assume 275 will cause rubbing on full lock in front. To solve for this, can I run staggered - e.g. 265 front, 275 rear?
      2) What would be the widest I could run in the front without having rubbing issues or making contact with components?

      3) I've checked out the speed % differences, but the calculator assumes all 4 wheels the same. How does the % speed change if I'm running staggered wheels (like in #1)?




      Also, did some calcs on different options vs stock 20" suzukas:


      1) 265/40 R20 = -1.11%
      2) 275/35 R20 = 1.64%
      3) 285/35 R20 = 0.64% (I assume you can't run this wide in the front)


      Any advice would be awesome!

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      • Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
        Hi folks,
        Thanks for the inspiring wheel pics! I've finally just ordered a set of wheels, and am after some advice on tyres and tyre widths.
        Car: Tiguan Wolfsburg RLine
        Wheels: 20x10 et35
        Height: Stock height and stock springs. I don't intend to lower, or if lower in the future, it will be maximum 30mm

        Some questions I have on tyres:
        1) I'd like to run a 275 (or maybe even 285) rear. But I assume 275 will cause rubbing on full lock in front. To solve for this, can I run staggered - e.g. 265 front, 275 rear?
        On a 10" width rim the recommended tyre size is 265-275. 255 is stretched and 285 is slightly oversize. Check here for recommended tyre sizes: Tire Width for a Wheel/Rim Size Chart

        Mercedes runs different widths back to front, however these are carefully matched so that the diameters are almost identical. The Tiguan is designed to have all 4 wheels the same size. If you run a mismatched set front/back it will cause the wheels to rotate at different speeds and the ABS system to think that you have constant slippage. Also you will limit your ability to rotate tyres so I wouldn't recommend it for both these reasons.


        Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
        2) What would be the widest I could run in the front without having rubbing issues or making contact with components?
        Put the wheel/tyre options into an online wheel fitment calculator to check how the fitment looks compared to stock. Here's stock vs. 285/35R20 on 20x10+35: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

        Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
        3) I've checked out the speed % differences, but the calculator assumes all 4 wheels the same. How does the % speed change if I'm running staggered wheels (like in #1)?
        You'd have to compare diameters and speeds but I wouldn't recommend running anything that wasn't within ~0.5%

        Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
        Also, did some calcs on different options vs stock 20" suzukas:
        1) 265/40 R20 = -1.11%
        2) 275/35 R20 = 1.64%
        3) 285/35 R20 = 0.64% (I assume you can't run this wide in the front)

        Any advice would be awesome!
        Personally I'd stick to 255/40 all around, however if you really wanted to push it then stick on 2 x 285/35R20 on 2 wheels. Put them on the front and run around the streets to see if you get clearance on full lock and over bumps etc. If they're fine stick 285's on the other 2 for he rears and job done. If they rub then stick the 285's on the back and put 255/40 on the front. They're the closest tyre size and if you're not lowered you're going to have the best chance of them fitting fine. I believe there's people running 275/35 but not sure if anyone is run 285's.

        2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

        2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
        2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
        2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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        • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
          On a 10" width rim the recommended tyre size is 265-275. 255 is stretched and 285 is slightly oversize. Check here for recommended tyre sizes: Tire Width for a Wheel/Rim Size Chart

          Mercedes runs different widths back to front, however these are carefully matched so that the diameters are almost identical. The Tiguan is designed to have all 4 wheels the same size. If you run a mismatched set front/back it will cause the wheels to rotate at different speeds and the ABS system to think that you have constant slippage. Also you will limit your ability to rotate tyres so I wouldn't recommend it for both these reasons.




          Put the wheel/tyre options into an online wheel fitment calculator to check how the fitment looks compared to stock. Here's stock vs. 285/35R20 on 20x10+35: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35



          You'd have to compare diameters and speeds but I wouldn't recommend running anything that wasn't within ~0.5%



          Personally I'd stick to 255/40 all around, however if you really wanted to push it then stick on 2 x 285/35R20 on 2 wheels. Put them on the front and run around the streets to see if you get clearance on full lock and over bumps etc. If they're fine stick 285's on the other 2 for he rears and job done. If they rub then stick the 285's on the back and put 255/40 on the front. They're the closest tyre size and if you're not lowered you're going to have the best chance of them fitting fine. I believe there's people running 275/35 but not sure if anyone is run 285's.
          Awesome nuggets of advice there, thanks Tigger!

          To be honest, I am not hell bent on getting 285s to work - just wanted to see whether the upper limits would be possible on our cars.

          Taking your point on staggered being a potential issue, I'm crossing that off as an option. Which means I'm more likely to just consider 265s all around, and that hopefully should clear everything.

          Just a follow up question on size variances then. You mentioned that you wouldn't consider anything over +/- 0.5%. So you wouldn't recommend the 265/40 I quoted? I was thinking -1.11% would be ok?

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          • Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
            Awesome nuggets of advice there, thanks Tigger!

            To be honest, I am not hell bent on getting 285s to work - just wanted to see whether the upper limits would be possible on our cars.

            Taking your point on staggered being a potential issue, I'm crossing that off as an option. Which means I'm more likely to just consider 265s all around, and that hopefully should clear everything.

            Just a follow up question on size variances then. You mentioned that you wouldn't consider anything over +/- 0.5%. So you wouldn't recommend the 265/40 I quoted? I was thinking -1.11% would be ok?
            I just think running a staggered setup is compromised in terms of being able to rotate your tyres and get best life out of them. You can only swap left to right and there's not as much benefit as being able to rotate all 4.

            Running 265 all round isn't too bad. Actually it's extremely close size-wise to the stock Tiguan size of 235/45R20 which came standard on the 20x8 rims fitted to my 162TSI Sportline.

            If you're going to run a staggered set-up this is the kind of difference you want to try and achieve: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

            2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

            2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
            2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
            2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
            - Tigger73's 125TSI Build


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            • Second thoughts go 265. The 255’s will be a bit stretched on a 10” width wheel and you’ll lose any rim protection the tyre offers.


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              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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              • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                Second thoughts go 265. The 255’s will be a bit stretched on a 10” width wheel and you’ll lose any rim protection the tyre offers.


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                Yep agreed. Tossing up between:

                1) 265/40: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

                2) 275/35: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

                But leaning towards 265 given the fatter profile and closer spec to stock (i.e. lower % error)

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                • It may also depend on availability/price of tyres in those sizes.

                  Not sure if they are stock size on any other car.

                  The bigger tyre will make your Speedo read closer to actual. The smaller one will read faster again by 1.6%.


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                  • Originally posted by tigger73 View Post
                    It may also depend on availability/price of tyres in those sizes.

                    Not sure if they are stock size on any other car.

                    The bigger tyre will make your Speedo read closer to actual. The smaller one will read faster again by 1.6%.


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                    Thanks. Can I just double check I'm reading the calculator right. So for the 275/35 r20 tire, the calculator is saying a speedo error of +1.64%. So when the gauge needle is at 60kmph, my real speed is FASTER or SLOWER than 60?

                    Here is the link again: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

                    I'm torn between 265/40r20 and 275/35r20. I sway between:

                    265: thicker side walls, looks maybe more appropriate on and SUV, fills the wheel well more
                    275: fatter, more square on a 10" rim but less protection (thinner side walls) and wheel gap is bigger and so will need to lower..

                    I know it comes down to personal prefs, but any thoughts?

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                    • Originally posted by GreyGoose_X View Post
                      Thanks. Can I just double check I'm reading the calculator right. So for the 275/35 r20 tire, the calculator is saying a speedo error of +1.64%. So when the gauge needle is at 60kmph, my real speed is FASTER or SLOWER than 60?

                      Here is the link again: https://www.willtheyfit.com/index.ph...=10&offset2=35

                      I'm torn between 265/40r20 and 275/35r20. I sway between:

                      265: thicker side walls, looks maybe more appropriate on and SUV, fills the wheel well more
                      275: fatter, more square on a 10" rim but less protection (thinner side walls) and wheel gap is bigger and so will need to lower..

                      I know it comes down to personal prefs, but any thoughts?
                      With the smaller diameter tyre (275/35) then your speedo will indicate a higher speed than actual as it will need to rotate more times for a given distance - the car thinks you have gone further/faster than you actually have.

                      I think the better size of the 2 is the 265/40 that is if you didn't want to run the stock 255/40 and have them slightly stretched.

                      Again not sure if anyone has tried to fit 285/35R20 under the guards but that is probably closest to stock diameter with a wider tyre. I would be mildly concerned with rubbing but if you're not lowered it's probably going to be fine. Maybe see if you can get a tyre shop to get some tyres in to test fit?? Or find a shop that has this size on the shelf.

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                      2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                      2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                      2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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                      • anyone run 22's on there tiguan?

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                        • Originally posted by chris_e_fresh View Post
                          anyone run 22's on there tiguan?
                          There are a few running 22's overseas:

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                          The only downside of running 22's is having 30 profile tyres.

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                          2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                          2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                          2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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                          • That first white one is clean as.

                            im thinking they will be to big and the tyre profile to low which will cause the minister for complaining about bumps not to be happy

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                            • Originally posted by chris_e_fresh View Post
                              That first white one is clean as.

                              i'm thinking they will be to big and the tyre profile to low which will cause the minister for complaining about bumps not to be happy
                              Yes you'd need to have very good roads to make 22" workable for daily duties.

                              I'm not saying 20" is the limit but 40 profile tyres still have a reasonable sidewall but are sporty looking so is a reasonable compromise. You can get 21" off a late model Audi SQ5 or similar but then you'll be running a 35 profile (Q5 runs one size larger wheel/tyre combo than Tiguan).

                              2017 Tiguan Sportline - Tigger73's 162TSI Sportline

                              2016 Scirocco R, stage 1, 205kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's Scirocco R Build
                              2013 Tiguan 155TSI, stage 1, 144kwaw (sold) - Tigger73's 155TSI Build
                              2011 Tiguan 125TSI, Stage 2+, 152kwaw (sold)
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