MY17/MQB Platform Tiguan Discussion Thread

[Ramee]

I don't think you'll see the Gen3 TSI until the Gen3 Tig comes out in a couple of years... so until that time the 155TSI R-line is king of the Tigs (apart from the stage 3 one in Brissy of course).

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You are forgetting (or may be ignoring ) there is another 270 kW R Tig Prince living in Melbourne much closer to that throne than a 155 TSI R Line ever hope to be... Haha

Ramee I think you'll find pricing of the MY15 Tigs will be pretty sharp. VW are getting outsold by Mazda CX-5 10:1 so they have to do something pretty major to bring people back to VW showrooms. When the Tig first came out in 2009 it was the No. 1 small/medium SUV, however now it's a 5 year old car with a mid-life update and struggling to match the competition who have all brought out new models since then (Mazda CX-5, Subaru XV, Nissan Qashie, Merc GLA, Jeep Cherokee, Hyundai ix35, etc).

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VW will not normally compete with Mazda or Hyundai or Nissan in price vise, it will outperform them in build quality, driveability , performance , technology etc but try to stay in middle ground between Euro Lux vs rest. If you want Mix of best performance, Looks, reliability , advance tech for a reasonable value there is pretty much no match for a Tig still, otherwise you would not have hard time finding a replacement for your two tone cheap plastic Tiguan!


The reason I proposed to get a Golf R instead of Tig was that if the person is a performance mind individual like me he will find new Golf R will deliver more driving enjoyment and performance than current model Tigs even with some level of modifications. So if getting a R Line Tig and thinking it will be similer to a true R is not going to be a good assumption even with modifications. And when consider pricing for R Line with mods vs R, I doubt there is much difference. Of course we will have to wait and see how pricing will turn up

[schmenz]

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I know it won't drive like an r line golf. It's just cosmetic. But there's about 20K between the two.
I prefer the golf because it's lower to put bikes on the roof but for $5 I can buy a step from bunnings.

(Yup. Gonna ruin it's sexiness with roof racks and destroy it's fuel economy)

I wouldn't mind getting a tune done but only if that means I don't have to physically change any parts and it's just electronic.

I'm too girly to get under the car (or in the bonnet). The most I do is change my on head light globes and I'm pretty happy with that!

I'd have attempted the flappy paddles. Or paid someone. But it comes with flappy paddles!

But I will buy one of those vcd doover cables to get dippy mirrors and stuff

[tigger73]

You are forgetting (or may be ignoring ) there is another 270 kW R Tig Prince living in Melbourne much closer to that throne than a 155 TSI R Line ever hope to be... Haha

No I haven't forgotten. I'm just waiting to read next months Hot Tuner mag to find out who is king....

VW will not normally compete with Mazda or Hyundai or Nissan in price vise, it will outperform them in build quality, driveability , performance , technology etc but try to stay in middle ground between Euro Lux vs rest. If you want Mix of best performance, Looks, reliability , advance tech for a reasonable value there is pretty much no match for a Tig still, otherwise you would not have hard time finding a replacement for your two tone cheap plastic Tiguan!

The reason I proposed to get a Golf R instead of Tig was that if the person is a performance mind individual like me he will find new Golf R will deliver more driving enjoyment and performance than current model Tigs even with some level of modifications. So if getting a R Line Tig and thinking it will be similer to a true R is not going to be a good assumption even with modifications. And when consider pricing for R Line with mods vs R, I doubt there is much difference. Of course we will have to wait and see how pricing will turn up

Yes I know VW is never going to compete directly on price but it has to compete on value. Right now it is more expensive and has less standard features than a lot of its competitors as well as running on an older platform with slightly less fuel efficient engines. So if it's just about doing the school run and being used as an oversized shopping trolley there's quite a few other cars out there that are ticking more boxes at the moment than the Tig.

I agree though there isn't any other package out there that gives you the same level of bang for your buck - especially if you're up for putting a tune on the car. A 206kW R Tig would be an interesting concept but I can't see this one getting built - I think we're much more likely to see a Golf R wagon (though whether this gets brought to Aus is an entirely different question).

I think that people like shmenz who are looking to buy a Tig now will be able to get a fully loaded car for what most of us paid for a base model... plus they can option it up with an R-line kit which I think will make it one of the most desirable small/medium SUVs on the market once again. In terms of performance/packaging/looks/price I think it's going to be hard to come up with a better overall package.

[schmenz]

I did start to think of the cx5 lately (it was originally my number 1 but I discounted it as it didn't come in manual. But alas it turns out. Jack all comes in manual these days! I hate autos but the dsg is as close as I'll be able to get to manual in what I want )

The only problem with the cx5s is they are everywhere. And they're ugly at the front. Looks like a fishes mouth.
There's jack all tigs where I am.

[tigger73]

I did start to think of the cx5 lately (it was originally my number 1 but I discounted it as it didn't come in manual. But alas it turns out. Jack all comes in manual these days! I hate autos but the dsg is as close as I'll be able to get to manual in what I want )

The only problem with the cx5s is they are everywhere. And they're ugly at the front. Looks like a fishes mouth.
There's jack all tigs where I am.

Yes if you get a R-line you'll definitely be in a more exclusive club.

Plus the CX-5 doesn't have the pick-up that the Tiguan has. It's a little lacking in the overtaking stakes so if performance is an important criteria, you're better off with the Tig.


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[schmenz]

yup! tig it is. ill be putting a deposit down soon! cant wait!

[tigger73]

yup! tig it is. ill be putting a deposit down soon! cant wait!

Let us know when you've placed your order and the model/options you're getting.

[tigger73]

Just an update on the all-new (MQB) Tiguan which is rumoured to be launched at the Paris motor show in October.

According to the motoring.com.au report "Volkswagen Group Australia managing director John White told motoring.com.au recently that an all-new Tiguan was due on sale globally next year, but it's unlikely to go on sale in Australia until 2016."

The full article is here: Volkswagen to reveal new Tiguan this year - motoring.com.au

[Transporter]

That's a good timing for me. Our Tig will be +6years old and I don't like to buy a car in its first or second year of production. But, when the time comes, as always, I will watch the offerings from the other brands as well.

[Ramee]

Good timing for me too if I consider buying an another Tig. But not a fan of that new look though...

[tigger73]

Good timing for me too if I consider buying an another Tig. But not a fan of that new look though...

The photo in the article is actually not the new Tiguan - it's the mini SUV based on the Up!

I'm also hanging out for the new Tiguan as I may be able to hold off until then before changing over vehicles.


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[Ramee]

The photo in the article is actually not the new Tiguan - it's the mini SUV based on the Up!

I'm also hanging out for the new Tiguan as I may be able to hold off until then before changing over vehicles.


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Ok! Yeah I now see only two doors in that mini concept SUV Yeah I think it is a good idea to hold off till new MBQ Tiguan model get released if you have finalized the decision buying one. It is not far away according to the news and you don't want to end up with old generation engine and model just after a year when new version is released. Probably any savings buying a run out model will be depreciated with the new model in the market.

[tigger73]

I still think that if you're looking for a car now the MY15 with R-line is not a bad choice. These are getting loaded up with a lot of standard equipment so you can pretty much get a fully loaded car for base model prices.

But agree that if you can wait then the new engines and slightly larger vehicle is the way to go (for me at least anyway).

And also by that stage (2016) we may have the Skoda mid-size SUV to compare as well....

[tigger73]

Well the first spy shots of the new MQB Tig have surfaced:








This is a test mule with the current model body, however it's on the road and getting driven. More photos and further details here: autoevolution - Spyshots: All-New 2015 Volkswagen Tiguan Will Be Wider


There's also proof of further testing getting done:




Full details and more photos: MotorAuthority - 2016 Volkswagen Tiguan Spy Shots

So looks like development of the new Tiguan is well under way.

[Ramee]

Ha! They somehow found an old wide wheel arch extension kit for Tig test mule Looks like highest power model still going to be in GTI range, 220 hp. But turbo upgrade kits will be more cheaper and common too considering they all going to be TSI Gen 3 engines.

Also will be interesting to see how hybrid turbo electric engines going to look like. Then we can tune both engine and the electric motor to kill some super cars