Brake pads

[cameleon72]

Thx for reply Disel_vert . I purchased today Bosh Blue Line front brake pads BP1505 from sparesbox $88.95 plus delivery Bosch Blue Line Brake Pad Set Front BP1505 | Sparesbox.

After I choice an selected my car, it says it will fit my 132kw tiguan 2017 Year.

According to Bosch catalogue brochure those BP1505 Blue Line are also Ceramic brake pads material used and are specially designed for our Au market and OEM approved . Here Is Bosh brochure link http://ao.bosch-automotive.com/docum...0-e8f4320b16c2

Only what confuse me is dimension of brake pads noted is different than you noted above ?
[mm]::20,4 ;Width [mm]::160,2 ;Height [mm]::64,5::10

[cameleon72]

This is direct link for font brake pads from Bosh catalogue product part: 0986494660
Product Detail - bosch.com

[Diesel_vert]

Thx for reply Disel_vert . I purchased today Bosh Blue Line front brake pads BP1505 from sparesbox $88.95 plus delivery Bosch Blue Line Brake Pad Set Front BP1505 | Sparesbox.

After I choice an selected my car, it says it will fit my 132kw tiguan 2017 Year.

According to Bosch catalogue brochure those BP1505 Blue Line are also Ceramic brake pads material used and are specially designed for our Au market and OEM approved . Here Is Bosh brochure link http://ao.bosch-automotive.com/docum...0-e8f4320b16c2

According to that brochure, Bosch develops their brake pads to closely match the characteristics of the OE (factory fitted) brake pads.

On page 4, you can see that Bosch would select either ceramic (also referred to as Non-Asbestos Organic, NAO for short) or low metallic friction materials for Australian and Asian passenger vehicles, whichever better matches the OE characteristics.

For the same reason, Bosch would select a low metallic material for European cars, since that is the type of brake pad that most European vehicles are fitted with.

Only what confuse me is dimension of brake pads noted is different than you noted above ?
[mm]::20,4 ;Width [mm]::160,2 ;Height [mm]::64,5::10

I suspect that particular pad will not fit your car, despite what is indicated on the Sparesbox website.

It is possible to roughly measure the length of your front brake pads (either 160 mm or 175 mm) without taking the wheels off.

Get a sheet of paper, roughly cut it to size, guide it through the wheel spokes, place it on the caliper, use a texta to mark the length of the brake pad, take it back out, and measure the markings with a ruler.

Alternatively, take a photo (try to get an unobstructed shot of the centre of the brake pad) and upload it onto the forum.

Otherwise, you will need to take the wheel off and measure the length of the brake pad directly.

This is direct link for font brake pads from Bosh catalogue product part: 0986494660
Product Detail - bosch.com

According to that link, the 'Material' is listed as 'Low-Metallic'.

Low-Metallic (also known as low-met or low-steel) refers to a type of pad with a ferrous content of between 5-35%, usually chosen by European vehicle manufacturers for their performance and wear characteristics at high speeds. Their telltale sign is the inordinate amount of brake dust you often see caked onto the wheels of European cars.

It would appear to me that you have purchased a brake pad with similar characteristics as the OE brake pad. Having said that, the friction compound will not be identical to the OE pad, so it is still possible to observe a reduction in brake dust, depending on how Bosch has tweaked the compound, but not likely to match a NAO (i.e. ceramic) pad in that regard.

[Transporter]

I’ve seen ATE Ceramic pads last well over 200,000km, some close to 300,000km and brake discs that are still fit for a new set of pads, but I’m yet to see any other brand’s ceramic pad to last longer than their non ceramic pads.

[cameleon72]

Thx for all help and research. I checked my brake pads without removing wheels , just enough place to put tape measure, yes you are right ,when looking on pictures end from end with mounting it is about 18cm so more close to 17.5cm like you said. However looking on actual brake pad contact length end to end excluding mounting bracket it is 16cm .
Maybe those stated Bosch measurement are for brake actual pad contact .Anyway Seller had 2x time confirmed they will fit after I provide him my car VIN No. Same is on Bosh website catalogue when entering car details it say this one are correct, maybe Bosch website has some car error database?
I should receive brake pads tomorrow , so we will see if they make mistake or not, hope they fit and I don't need to return it back

[cameleon72]

Ok Bosh pads from above come today and they not fit!
Diesel was right 160mm ordered Bosch brake pads from my link above are not suitable for132/162kw Tiguan and actual picture are correct measurement of160mm are like on pictures from mounting to mounting bracket but it suppose to be 175mm x 69.5m like Diesel noted. So obvious there is some misleading in Bosch original catalogue and also sparsbox and many other online shops ,obvious they didn't checked but just copy and paste information from Bosch catalogue as they fit.

Very strange how Bosch could make such a silly mistake even by selecting VIN ,but ''German Precision and quality'' same as my German made Tiguan always something wrong ... hehe

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

So from what you're saying the Golf R brake pad is what you need? as they're 175mm long.

Funny enough if you go to Ben**** (Bendix) they say the Golf GTI MK7 pad fits the Tiguan MK2 (5NA) which is only 160mm or so long

[Transporter]

It’s known fact that the catalogs are often wrong.

[cameleon72]

Yep Tiguan 132kw and 162kw use same 340mm Disks size as golf R . For front 340mm Disk. That's very decent calliper and brake pads size for small SUV .

As Transporter and other say ,jut ignore catalogue online are all misleading or you will get in trouble same as me with all brands including brembo, bosch ,Bendix say 160mm when selecting car model and VIN.

I have returned first order Bosch 160mm to Seller and He resent correct one Bosch Blue line, installed yesterday and I can only tell car feel different than stock .more smooth , when release brake pedal they just quicker to resume and go than original . Still to early to say regarding braking power , but just car fill different , low noise , like material used is more softer.

[GRD]

cameleon can you post up the Bosch part number of the correct pads, the ones you have now.
Also what's the dust situation with these pads?

[ethosguy]

I've got Hawk ceramic on our Mk1 Tig. Fitted some time ago with DBA T2 slotted rotors. NO DUST. Price was OK. Was price sensitive at the time and still went with them but can't recall the actual cost. From V Sport Australia. Much different pedal...less touchy. Took a concerning long time to bed in. I worried they would be too 'hard' for days. Very satisfied after bedding in. Perhaps more audible on heavy sustained down hill with a load.

[Transporter]

I've got Hawk ceramic on our Mk1 Tig. Fitted some time ago with DBA T2 slotted rotors. NO DUST. Price was OK. Was price sensitive at the time and still went with them but can't recall the actual cost. From V Sport Australia. Much different pedal...less touchy. Took a concerning long time to bed in. I worried they would be too 'hard' for days. Very satisfied after bedding in. Perhaps more audible on heavy sustained down hill with a load.

There’s nothing like that with ATE Ceramic pads, no difference in the pedal feel, the same stopping power.

[cameleon72]

Sorry GRD . dont have any more box so don't know P/N .
Still o early to say regarding dust as I didn't wash car since install and wheels was already dirty.
But sure they are more soft spongy low noise easy to resume from stoping not sticky to rotor . Maybe they need more to bed in but for now I feel less stoping power than original one , my Rotor Disk already is bit worn on edges after 40k km so pads will need more time to adapt on worn shape of disk rotor .
However also for less stoping power reason comparing those 2 pads could be in OEM pad design pattern. Even they have same as original pattern and contact size, they are both not full covering pads when pads are brand new.
They have trapezoid gradual wearing pads contact material style. Only when pads rich last 3-5mm on end they have larger max pad contact .. As my the original replaced pad was already worn under down 3-5mm so basically pads did have this full pads contact and probably that's the difference In more stoping power I noticed with original pads.
I have also accidently spill out some Brake fluid from main reservoir by pushing and retracting brake calliper piston back in place , so not sure if I have maybe also now got some air trapped by pushing out brake fluid in callipers and brake system ,which I doubt but also to count

cameleon can you post up the Bosch part number of the correct pads, the ones you have now.
Also what's the dust situation with these pads?

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

If anyone is keen, I can supply Intima SR brake pads for a reasonable price, Golf R pad that is.

[Janus77]

I chatted with someone on the Sparesbox website, and based on my vehicle's vin number, they said these will fit: RDA GP Max Brake Pad Set Front RDB2216 | Sparesbox
These look right as they're 175mm (not the 160mm mentioned above not to fit). Just wondering if they're going to stop as well as the OEM, anyone have experience with these? Or if there's an alternate brand/part that would be a better OEM replacement?
The alternative (and tripple the price) is the Zimmerman 24727.200.2 which the online help chat guy said would also fit.

Appreciate any thoughts/comments/suggestions on the choice between these two.

thanks.