Tiguan/Allspace Big Brake Kits

[tigger73]

As you say the difference in cost between the 4 pots and 6 pots is not massive so definitely I’d go the bigger setup as you won’t regret it later.

You won’t die wondering what could have been. Do it once and do it right.

The only thing you need to be careful with is clearance on the inside. What stock rims are you running and how much space do you have to the stock caliper?


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[Tob35]

The disk diameter is only one thing.

4 pot vs the standard brake even of the same diameter has its advantages. Not the least being clamping pressure across the whole pad and usually a bigger pad.

The 4 pot Brembos on the F6 I had were plenty of brakes.

[Razor80]

Greg at brakes direct said I wont have any clearance issue its designed to fit without using spacers or altering anything. Believe its designed clearance is for a 19" + wheel. I am still going to use the 20" original Suzuka wheels.

Atm they are beating anyother deal for the BBK front and uprated rear with stock caliper. Should stop on a dime.

He said the Forza FP3 on front and FP2 on rears, still better then a Ferodo combination and being low dust etc.

[tigger73]

If you read the write-up on the Rancingline brakes (345mm) it clearly states in there that it's the performance after multiple stops that they're selling not the outright stopping performance on a single stop: Racingline Performance Monoblock Brake Upgrade - MK7 R/GTI, S3, VRS - Harding Performance

[Tob35]

If you read the write-up on the Rancingline brakes (345mm) it clearly states in there that it's the performance after multiple stops that they're selling not the outright stopping performance on a single stop: Racingline Performance Monoblock Brake Upgrade - MK7 R/GTI, S3, VRS - Harding Performance

Compared to a Golf R stock brakes package.

What's the difference between the tiggy brakes and the Golf R brakes?

[tigger73]

Compared to a Golf R stock brakes package.

What's the difference between the tiggy brakes and the Golf R brakes?

Yes the Racingline was comparison between stock Golf R and Racingline.

There's actually not a lot in it between the stock AWD Tig brakes and the Golf R set-up:

Tig FWD front: 312 x 25mm
Tig AWD front: 340 x 30mm
Golf R front: 340 x 30mm

Tig FWD rear: 300 x 12mm
Tig AWD rear: 300 x 12mm
Golf R rear: 310 x 22mm

The calipers are different between the Golf R and the Tig. Most of the heavy braking is getting done on the fronts and they're the same diameter/thickness. The Golf is 100kg or so lighter so it's going to pull up better than the Tig just on that basis.

[Tob35]

I would be interested in the golf R caliper differences. Piston size, pad area etc are also important to compare. Not just diameter and thickness.

At most I'd be going a stage 1 setup with an R turbo transplant. Never going to track it. So something to prevent a little bit of fade at the bottom of a spirited hinterland cruise is all I would be after. The few K difference between a 4 pot and a 6 pot could be better spent on strippers and beer.

[Razor80]

I'm going to confirm my order on the brakes tomorrow. Just waiting on one more quotation in the morning.
Will get the Alcon 6 pots with either the Forza 375x30mm or DBA 5000 378x32mm. The other supplier is working on a Wilwood or Brembo package to suit.
The rears will be Forza 350x22mm (or DBA) with existing caliper.

[Razor80]

Before I finalise my brakes order today (it wasn't mentioned to me) but I thought I will check if these pads have the sensors built in or do they do not? If not, how do I avoid the car detecting a problem with the wear sensors?

[tigger73]

Before I finalise my brakes order today (it wasn't mentioned to me) but I thought I will check if these pads have the sensors built in or do they do not? If not, how do I avoid the car detecting a problem with the wear sensors?

Stock brakes have sensors. If you get brakes without sensors you just need the either code it out or connect a short to the cable to stop the fault light coming up on the dash.

[Razor80]

Stock brakes have sensors. If you get brakes without sensors you just need the either code it out or connect a short to the cable to stop the fault light coming up on the dash.

Thanks mate, I forgot to mention it's sorted. I was advised the rears don't have sensors and but the fronts on the other do. The front pads come with sensors so should be no issues.

My brakes are now ordered, now the painful wait for them to arrive. The rears on the other hand will come this week, so least I have half my birthday present to myself haha.

The guys at Brakes Direct are really great, can't recommend them enough.

[tigger73]

Thanks mate, I forgot to mention it's sorted. I was advised the rears don't have sensors and but the fronts on the other do. The front pads come with sensors so should be no issues.

My brakes are now ordered, now the painful wait for them to arrive. The rears on the other hand will come this week, so least I have half my birthday present to myself haha.

The guys at Brakes Direct are really great, can't recommend them enough.

Nice! What did you end up going with in the end? And yes Brakes Direct come with quite a few recommendations. That's where my kit originally came from also.

[Razor80]

Nice! What did you end up going with in the end? And yes Brakes Direct come with quite a few recommendations. That's where my kit originally came from also.

I purchased the following:
Alcon 6 piston Advantage Extreme with DBA 5000 series 378x32 T3 slotted rotors (this design to match the rears pattern)
Forza 2 piece brake kit 350x22mm - Using existing calliper
Pads all round - Forza FP3's - Still good for street/track

I will post a pic of the rears once received.

BTW - My rear calliper is getting repaired next week so will book in with Gordy soon. Get you maps soon after

[tigger73]

I purchased the following:
Alcon 6 piston Advantage Extreme with DBA 5000 series 378x32 T3 slotted rotors (this design to match the rears pattern)
Forza 2 piece brake kit 350x22mm - Using existing calliper
Pads all round - Forza FP3's - Still good for street/track

I will post a pic of the rears once received.

BTW - My rear calliper is getting repaired next week so will book in with Gordy soon. Get you maps soon after

Nice set-up. So how do you fit 350mm rotors on the rear using the existing caliper? Do you need a caliper relocation kit? Interested in this option as I have currently left the rears stock.

I'm patiently waiting for yours to get tuned as they'll update my file once they've sorted out some of the challenges with the ECU that they're experiencing. Easier to do it with the car on the dyno in Melbourne and means that my local guy doesn't have to get involved with loading a heap of revisions while they work their way around the engine protection limiting boost.

[Razor80]

Nice set-up. So how do you fit 350mm rotors on the rear using the existing caliper? Do you need a caliper relocation kit? Interested in this option as I have currently left the rears stock.

I'm patiently waiting for yours to get tuned as they'll update my file once they've sorted out some of the challenges with the ECU that they're experiencing. Easier to do it with the car on the dyno in Melbourne and means that my local guy doesn't have to get involved with loading a heap of revisions while they work their way around the engine protection limiting boost.

The rear Forza kit comes with a brackets for the adaption. This allows 350mm rotors to be used with OEM calliper.
Here's a link to the kit F2D.350.22.AAL-B | Forza 2 Piece Brake Disc 350mm Upgrade Including BLACK Carrier (Left)

What sort of issues are they experiencing with the ECU or limited boost? Are you now going to get your DSG tune once its remapped?