Tyre wear on Tiguan 140TDI R 20 inch wheels.

[ope126]

Thanks for the reply ope126

The wheels were rotated at 15 K service.
The wear is even across all tires with no indication of needing an alignment.
The tire wear is 1.5mm till wear indicators are reached.
Tires are Continental. Local tire dealer said 30+Ks is good for Contisportcontact tires
All tires on Tiguan placard are V rated.
When I purchased Tiguan R the only tire available was the 255/40R20. I now wish to move to a higher profile tire for a better ride and cheaper to operate.
I am otherwise very happy with the Tiguan.

Geoff

Hi Geoff,

Still a little confused my friend...

You mention "front tyres are 1.5mm and rears 4mm" which to all intensive purposes meas your fronts are un-roadworthy.

But you have now mentioned "The tire wear is 1.5mm till wear indicators are reached".

So that means the fronts are 3.1mm and rears are 5.6mm; or am I missing something?

Here is some info on Tread Wear Indicators (TWI) from Continental; Remaining Tread Depth

I understand that all the tryes are "V" rated on the tyre placard, however you will find most aftermarket tyres will be W or Y rated.
From memory they have a 101 load rating also...

[brad]

I'm not sure where you shop for tyres but my tyre shop:
255/40r20 Speed rating Y Load rating 101
Continental CSC5P $380

Michelin PSS $450

Goodyear Eagle F1A2 $350

Pirelli PZero are cheap enough that they won't put the price but I'd guess around $320

And for the extra-frugal WinRun are $135

30k out of a high performance summer tyre is pretty good

[tigger73]

Do the 18" Rim and Tyres that come on the lower spec Tiguan last longer ?

I only plan to keep the Tiguan for 5.5 years (5 months after the warranty expires).

I normally do around 60K km over 5 years. Not sure if it is worth to swap after purchase

Do the Suziki style come on 18" ?

Should I swap the 20" for 18" at the dealer prior to delivery ?

Suzuka are only in 20" for the Tiguan. There is a 19" version of the Suzuka, however this is OEM equipment on the T-Roc and I doubt there would be any in the country as T-Roc is not here until this time next year.

Generally the lower profile tyres are a "sports" compound which tends to be softer/grippier but also last fewer km.

You could ask for a different wheel/tyre but typically you need to do this prior to signing the contract otherwise likely they'll give you a bad deal. Personally if you're getting the R-line you'll find it 10x easier to sell if it comes with the original wheels.

More than likely you'd have to replace the tyres in 5 years/60,000km on a set of 18's anyway so either way you'll be up for a new set. Just the 20's you'll probably have to replace sooner.

[smarty]

I'm not sure where you shop for tyres but my tyre shop:
255/40r20 Speed rating Y Load rating 101
Continental CSC5P $380

Michelin PSS $450

Goodyear Eagle F1A2 $350

Pirelli PZero are cheap enough that they won't put the price but I'd guess around $320

And for the extra-frugal WinRun are $135

30k out of a high performance summer tyre is pretty good

You will find that those conti’s aren’t the ones that are SUV rated, being the 5p
ContiSportContact(R) 5 P

You actually need the sport contact 5 which are SUV rated to really replace the ones that are on there from factory I beleive
ContiSportContact(R) 5

Don’t know how much difference it actually makes but you never know but another reason why I went the scorpions over the contis this time around because there was a bit of a wait on the ‘5’ but they were trying to sell me the ‘5p’ which I wasn’t overly comfortable using

[GJM]

New rims and tyres... so it'll probably cost you more in the short-term.

There are plenty of rims or rims and tyres on eBay and Gumtree off Audi A4, A5 and Q5 in 17 and 18 inch Dia with people upgrading to larger tyres.
The main things are to have 5x112PCD and an offset around 35 to 45 mm. To check if the wheel will fit I used Rim & Tire Size Calculator. Custom Offsets - Wheel-Size.com
The Audi rims have a Bore of 66.5mm and VW has a hub size of 57.1mm. A Hub Centric ring is required on each wheel to easily centre the wheel when mounting on the hub. These are available on eBay.
There are several sets of tyres and rims for around $500 to $1200 hundred dollars. 17 inch rims are cheaper than 18.

I purchased a set of Audi tyres and rims for $500 the rims are unmarked and the 235/65 R17 tyres are almost new. The tyre is only4% larger in dia, the speedo will read 62 at 60, 235/60 R17 has a Dia 0.3% larger than the original tyres and should be a better size.

If I only get the same kms out of these tyres I have saved $1500 dollars. The new tyres have a higher tread wear rating than the Contis. The new set is not runflat. They will still not fit in the spare tyre well. I will post a picture when fitted.

A good article tyre test explaining tyre wear rate, in which Conti premium contact 5 was the best.
Wheels Tyre Test 2016: Ten brands compared

[GJM]

Hey opel
I have always regarded tread depth as rubber above the wear blocks as anything below the wear blocks is not legally usable, sorry if I was not clear.
All tyres on the Tiguan tyre placard from 17 to 20 inch are V rated.

[brad]

You will find that those conti’s aren’t the ones that are SUV rated, being the 5p
ContiSportContact(R) 5 P

You actually need the sport contact 5 which are SUV rated to really replace the ones that are on there from factory I beleive
ContiSportContact(R) 5

Don’t know how much difference it actually makes but you never know but another reason why I went the scorpions over the contis this time around because there was a bit of a wait on the ‘5’ but they were trying to sell me the ‘5p’ which I wasn’t overly comfortable using

I don't think there's such a thing as an SUV "rating" the speed & load ratings are against a known datum and treadwear rating is standardised within the manufacturer. Sure, a tyre might be aimed towards SUVs in terms of tread pattern and chemical makeup but there's no reason it is exclusive to SUVs or vice-versa.

[brad]

Hey opel
I have always regarded tread depth as rubber above the wear blocks as anything below the wear blocks is not legally usable, sorry if I was not clear.
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It's measured down to the bottom of the valley if you are doing a faulty tyre claim.

The Audi rims have a Bore of 66.5mm and VW has a hub size of 57.1mm. A Hub Centric ring is required on each wheel to easily centre the wheel when mounting on the hub. These are available on eBay.

I have some 66.5-57.1 hubcentric spacers I don't need. You can have them cheap if you need some.

[GJM]

I have some 66.5-57.1 hubcentric spacers I don't need. You can have them cheap if you need some.

Thanks for the offer Brad.

I have ordered some from eBay.

[GJM]

Picture of Tiggy on Audi Q5 17x 8 inch rims. Tyres are 235/65 R17. The tyres are marked SUV, from what I can read on the web it can mean stronger sidewall sometimes. I cannot find a standard for SUV tyres. Most Tiggies would run on passenger tyres as very few would be used for high performance or 4x4 driving.

[Guest001]

If you change from 20" Tyres to 18" Tyres do you need to buy new rims or can you fit 18" Tyres on the 20" Rim ?

Can you get your size 10 feet into size 8 shoes

[INASNT]

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Picture of Tiggy on Audi Q5 17x 8 inch rims. Tyres are 235/65 R17. The tyres are marked SUV, from what I can read on the web it can mean stronger sidewall sometimes. I cannot find a standard for SUV tyres. Most Tiggies would run on passenger tyres as very few would be used for high performance or 4x4 driving.

Tiguan shape is not suited to rims this small. 20's or above are needed to fill out the guards

[doc_777]

I just did some quick looking for alternate sizes which may work - such as 245/45-20. Plenty of tyres in that size, with decent brands etc I’m the low 300’s per tyre.

[brad]

The outside diameter of the tyre is unchanged so the guard filling is no different

[Gladbach]

I think I'm up for some new tyres (the front ones at least are looking a bit worn). Any recommendations on 20inch tyres to suit the Suzukas? I've had continentals before on my Jetta and found them quite good, although they tend to wear a bit quicker/quite soft?