New 2019 Tiguan Fails Autonomous Emergency Braking Tests (30km/h and 50km/h)

[doc_777]

Isn't this the ANCAP AEB Test Procedures ?

https://www.ancap.com.au/publication...ems-v2-0-1.pdf

well there you go - I need to get with the times

[Transporter]

[I]
Mods: Why was this moved to 'General' section when its specifically about the Tiguan ?

Because, it’s an interesting article and this is the section for media and interesting articles about VAG cars and others too.

Leave the Tiguan section for actual information about the car and members experience with the cars, not the journalist turn into scientists playing testers.

I apologise if it inconvenience you or others.

[TrickeyBW2]

These are some cool vids and legit process with much better scenarios/ objects.

YouTube - Euro ANCAP pedestrian Passat (same tech)
YouTube - ANCAP with vehicle simulation. (Tiguan specific... pedestrian and Car!)
13:50 mark.

Its so heavily regulated that there is no way they could have launched / claimed it if they had not passed consistently.

[Simonr23]

Why is the inflated, thin plastic a fair excuse for radar. Is some able to explain- scientifically why radar can’t ‘see’ plastic.

My Mazda saw plastic bumpers, a thin cardboard box, motorcycles, cyclists. It was one of the earlier ‘common’ cars to have radar cruise (2012)

My current allspace hasn’t been tested tested yet, but did fail to detect a car that pulled out across my path. I was aware of the car, so luckily just managed to steer behind it and avoid scratching/crashing.

Any negative feedback about this issue is perfectly valid, in my opinion. Accuracy and clarity on vw’s radar unit specs, is all that needs to be added.

[AshB]

I’ve had weird behaviour with this since picking up on friday. Have seen the light for too close to car in front come on several times, where my distance was not unusual, or close.
I even had the red emergency break light come on, though I was already about to break, so didn’t feel it auto break. I was not in an immediate danger. Possibly my driving style, I considered myself someone who keeps distance.
Either way, it seemed inconsistent, which suggests something is wrong with the system.

[brad]

I’m sure that VW engineers done their testing and I’d have more faith in them than some bunch of journalist from drivedotcomdotau.

The test balloon is what ANCAP use and ANCAP's Technical Manager was supervising.

[tigger73]

OK then sounds like VW may have some work to do.

I’ve read through the ANCAP document and the target is meant to be OK for radar/optical and some of the newer systems also.




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[tigger73]

According to the ANCAP document they're using the Global Vehicle Target (GVT)

Tests are conducted using the Global Vehicle Target (GVT). The GVT replicates the visual, radar and LIDAR attributes of a typical M1 passenger vehicle.



The GVT is designed to work with the following types of sensors:

• Radar (24 and 77 GHz)
• LIDAR
• Camera

When a manufacturer believes that the GVT is not suitable for another type of sensor system used by the vehicle under test but not listed above, the manufacturer is asked to contact ANCAP.

[FastMitch]

According to the ANCAP document they're using the Global Vehicle Target (GVT)

Tests are conducted using the Global Vehicle Target (GVT). The GVT replicates the visual, radar and LIDAR attributes of a typical M1 passenger vehicle.

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The GVT is designed to work with the following types of sensors:

• Radar (24 and 77 GHz)
• LIDAR
• Camera

When a manufacturer believes that the GVT is not suitable for another type of sensor system used by the vehicle under test but not listed above, the manufacturer is asked to contact ANCAP.

I wonder how it works with Insurance in a crash

Is VW the 'at fault' party when the car fails to trigger the AEB in a standard frontal collision driving < 30km/h ?

[tigger73]

I wonder how it works with Insurance in a crash

Is VW the 'at fault' party when the car fails to trigger the AEB in a standard frontal collision driving < 30km/h ?

And that's why they're called driver "assist" technologies. They're not driving the car for you - you're still ultimately in control, however they do assist you at times.

I don't think you'd win the battle in court. Yes the technology probably could have acted but there's a range of times when it doesn't / can't
operate due to a fouled sensor / in the case of optical system too hot (yes that's right the Subaru system shuts down when it get too hot) or too wet (heavy rain). So you're still ultimately responsible and no car manufacturer is going to want to take that responsibility on.

[Simonr23]

The newest top gear episode just tested the arteon for pedestrian auto brake. Assuming they weren’t lying, it didn’t work at all.

Stationary object- no braking
Moving object(perpendicular to car)- no braking
Actual human flailing about- no braking.

[Ozsko]

Interesting.....