Let's Talk Brake Pads

[iDiesel]

How hard would it be to grade to R brakes?
Can be done?

[Kachingg]

I upgraded my brakes to golf r from the stock setup looks great as i got the calipers painted candy apple gold before geting them installed used ate ceramic pads
In normal driving no change much better when driven hard i find the ate pads preformed well on the reafton spur the gti in front of me after the run had smoke pouring off his brakes and i could briefly touch my calipers without getting a burn no fade at all
I was pushing him hard the whole way
Not a cheap option but worth it

[brad]

How hard would it be to grade to R brakes?
Can be done?

It's an easy swap and plenty have done it but it will add ~10kg in unsprung weight per side. The main positive is that it's OEM.

Personally I'd go with a 4 or 6 pot setup. Lighter and no slider pin issues.

My upgrade log: non-PP to PP brakes - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum

[INASNT]

It's an easy swap and plenty have done it but it will add ~10kg in unsprung weight per side. The main positive is that it's OEM.

Personally I'd go with a 4 or 6 pot setup. Lighter and no slider pin issues.

My upgrade log: non-PP to PP brakes - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum

How much bigger are they actually? They have a large cover making them look bigger and better than they actually are.

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

I've been talking to Elig Australia and they advised they've revised the brake pad offering for the new stock they've got in.

The Sports range has now a different compound which behaves similarly to Project Mu HC800 (which you guys know are a fantastic pad, low rotor wear and very good co-efficient ).

The new Elig Sports (SB539) is now rated from 0 to 700 degrees Celsius, which makes it perfect street use with some track work, which i doubt many of us will do.

I will be getting a set to replace the current OEM brake pads in the next couple of months (most likely after my 1st service).

Will report back!

[tigger73]

How hard would it be to grade to R brakes?
Can be done?

I'm actually not sure there's going to be a heap of difference to be honest unless you plan on tracking your car and/or doing a lot of heavy, repeated braking. The main difference appears to be in the rears. I still need to determine what the difference is in the caliper.

AWD Tiguan Brake specs:

Front: 340mm x 30mm, Rear: 300mm x 12mm


FWD Tiguan / Mk7 Golf GTI brake specs:

Front: 312mm x 25mm, Rear: 300mm x 12mm


Mk7 Golf R/GTI Performance brake specs:

Front: 340mm x 30mm, Rear: 310mm x 22mm

[franjae]

Hi guys,

Can someone please confirm that the pads and rotors for the Mk7 GTi (standard) and Tiguan Wolfsburg are NOT interchangeable?

Thank you in advance.

[brad]

Hi guys,

Can someone please confirm that the pads and rotors for the Mk7 GTi (standard) and Tiguan Wolfsburg are NOT interchangeable?

Thank you in advance.

AFAIK the Wolfsburg is 340mm and the GTI power pack is 340mm and they interchange. VW/Audi?Skoda/SEAT are like mechano sets and many parts are interchangeable.

What are your concerns or what do you know different?

[tigger73]

Hi guys,

Can someone please confirm that the pads and rotors for the Mk7 GTi (standard) and Tiguan Wolfsburg are NOT interchangeable?

Thank you in advance.

Why do you ask?

You would have to change both calipers and rotors.

I’m not 100% sure if the pad shape is different but I suspect these would be given the rotor size is different.


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[franjae]

AFAIK the Wolfsburg is 340mm and the GTI power pack is 340mm and they interchange. VW/Audi?Skoda/SEAT are like mechano sets and many parts are interchangeable.

What are your concerns or what do you know different?

Thank you to both of you. I was thinking of swapping out the Wolfsburg pads to ceramics, then using them for the GTi....... So sounds like they are of different diameter.

[tigger73]

Thank you to both of you. I was thinking of swapping out the Wolfsburg pads to ceramics, then using them for the GTi....... So sounds like they are of different diameter.

Definitely different diameter so rotors can’t be swapped. The actual pads I suspect are going to be different shape as the brake calipers are different but you would have to check the part numbers for each to confirm 100%.


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[brad]

Thank you to both of you. I was thinking of swapping out the Wolfsburg pads to ceramics, then using them for the GTi....... So sounds like they are of different diameter.

This catalogue gives dimensions and an outline of the pad shape and rotor.

Parts Catalogue – Bremtec Brakepads

[brad]

How much bigger are they actually? They have a large cover making them look bigger and better than they actually are.

340mm rotor has a pad area around 12000mm sq (x4).
312mm rotor has a pad area around 10250mm sq (x4).

Call it 20% more surface area?

[tigger73]

340mm rotor has a pad area around 12000mm sq (x4).
312mm rotor has a pad area around 10250mm sq (x4).

Call it 20% more surface area?

So looks like the Mk7 GTI has the smaller front brakes and the Mk7.5 matches the Tiguan. At least the part numbers are the same on the Bremtec site. I'd probably still like confirmation from VW spare parts before purchasing.

[brad]

So looks like the Mk7 GTI has the smaller front brakes and the Mk7.5 matches the Tiguan. At least the part numbers are the same on the Bremtec site. I'd probably still like confirmation from VW spare parts before purchasing.

A good Brake supplier like Brakes direct usually has access to what was fitted at various build dates.

If you are DIYing the job then pull a wheel and a slide pin and that usually gives enough access to compare the pad with the profile in the catalogue.