Are DSG Jerky in 1st Gear and prone to Failure ?

[FastMitch]

Had a hire care today for work, and it had a 'Dry DSG'

It was as Jerky as crap when taking off in 1st gear.
It felt like I was driving a manual when you try to take off in 1st gear in a manual.

When I test drove the Tiguan, I don't recall taking off in 1st gear being jerky.

As the VW Tiguan is a 'Wet DSG', are 'Wet DSG' known to be smoother and more reliable ?

The below pamphlet from the glove box of the hire car is of concern

[tigger73]

7 speed DSG in the Tiguan is a wet clutch. It should be smooth.

Sounds like the hire car may not have been treated nicely....

[FastMitch]

7 speed DSG in the Tiguan is a wet clutch. It should be smooth.

Sounds like the hire car may not have been treated nicely....

Hire car was brand new with 3K on the clock

[Transporter]

The 3,000km is plenty of time to ruin the car or transmission.

[tigger73]

If someone has taken the hire car and done a lot of launches. And or tried to stall up the clutches then they could trash it fairly quickly.

The dry gearboxes tend to overheat and then the clutch packs will get damaged.

[FastMitch]

If someone has taken the hire car and done a lot of launches. And or tried to stall up the clutches then they could trash it fairly quickly.

The dry gearboxes tend to overheat and then the clutch packs will get damaged.

Do Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches have issues with over heating ?

Are Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches easily damaged compared to standard 8 Speed Auto ?

[tigger73]

Are DSG Jerky in 1st Gear and prone to Failure ?

Do Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches have issues with over heating ?

Are Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches easily damaged compared to standard 8 Speed Auto ?

Dq500 wet 7 speed has been in the Tiguan since 2011. These are brilliant. Almost no issues.

Only rare problem I’ve seen in 7 years here is on a high km Transporter.

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[FlyTSI]

Do Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches have issues with over heating ?

Are Tiguan DSG Wet Clutches easily damaged compared to standard 8 Speed Auto ?

I had a dry in my polo 6r and would never buy one again. Okay when new but slowly got worse before clutch kit replaced at 18mths. There was a recall/firmware update and something else from memory relating to the dsg also. Same as you describe jerky on take off. It was esecially bad if taking off on intersection with a slight crest in the middle. I found it was a little better in sports mode but there goes fuel economy. From what i have read the tiguan wet clutches are more reliable. If not this will be our last VW.

[portas1971]

Are DSG Jerky in 1st Gear and prone to Failure ?

I have been wondering about the DSG since I took delivery of mine. Mine is jerky in reverse and when changing from 3 down to 1 on occasion. It certainly is noticeable and I am considering taking it back to dealer to query it, now that it has done 2000km.
It is definitely NOT smooth, most of my low speed manoeuvres are jerky [emoji20]


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[dbun]

Low speed jerky-ness is typical of the DSG.

It's one of the many comments made when comparing DSG to conventional auto or other auto transmission types.

[portas1971]

Mind at ease then. Thx for feedback. ��

[Kachingg]

Yep the dsg can be jerky in low gears remember its a computer controlled manual gearbox not a automatic gearbox which has a fluid coupling between flywheel and the gearbox itself (torque converter) they will always be smoother than a dsg
The dsg came about because you get worse fuel economy with the auto box the fluid coupling robs power and increases fuel use that is the main reason for going dsg
It's not perfect but you soon get used to it i have the dq381 wet 7 speed in my car and its very good better than the dq250 6 speed wet i used to have in my mark 6
The wife has a dry 7 speed dq200 in her new 7.5 and it is good but i notice it is a little more jerky than mine i think the wet clutch system is better at smoothing out the jerks

[FastMitch]

I have been wondering about the DSG since I took delivery of mine. Mine is jerky in reverse and when changing from 3 down to 1 on occasion. It certainly is noticeable and I am considering taking it back to dealer to query it, now that it has done 2000km.
It is definitely NOT smooth, most of my low speed manoeuvres are jerky [emoji20]

I wish VW Australia would offer a standard 8 Speed Auto with Torque Converter as they do on the Tiguan in Canada and other countries

Tiguan | VW SUV | Volkswagen Canada

I bet 90% of people would pick a standard auto if it was an option

I would rather have a smooth and reliable ride and use more fuel than a jerky one. But that's me

[Ozsko]

I would not be surprised to see the DSG go the way of the Dodo in a few years as the original reasons for its existence has largely passed. These days the torque converter can be locked up at very low rpm and motors are more powerful, both problems that made VW use it in the first place. Audi have gone back to a TC box in one of its new models and it will be interesting to see if that continues with further new releases.

[Grugly]

I wish VW Australia would offer a standard 8 Speed Auto with Torque Converter as they do on the Tiguan in Canada and other countries

Tiguan | VW SUV | Volkswagen Canada

I bet 90% of people would pick a standard auto if it was an option

Isn't that referring to the same gear box? An 8 speed which is the 7speed DSG but they include reverse when counting gears so call it an 8 speed?