APR Tune - 162TSI - worth every $$

[Wolfsburger]

Not sure if this link will work but someone posted about detection previously in the mk2 tuning thread:
Mk2 Tiguan Tuning

piggyback and flash tunes if VW really want can check and flag TD1 and TB1 ...so either way ...you pay to play ...and take the risk <br />
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That’s exactly the type of proof I was looking for, saved me reading pages and pages of that thread. I knew I would flush one out 😃

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

Next thing is, does stuffing about with VCDS and/or OBDEleven void warranty also?

I've changed the way my Haldex works and disable the torque reduction lol.

[OZROD]

I went to German Performance Garage this morning and met Stephen. What a delight when you meet someone who is so enthusiastic about their job! All set to get it tuned the day after the year 1 service

[FastMitch]

Next thing is, does stuffing about with VCDS and/or OBDEleven void warranty also?

I've changed the way my Haldex works and disable the torque reduction lol.

This is a good question. Can VW service centers know if you have done any VCDS changes ?

[Wolfsburger]

I’d say VW can see everything including when changing your mind lol

[OZROD]

I've done all of the common VCDS tweaks, and the drivers screen looks different to a standard Tiguan so there's no denying it. I had the car in a month ago to replace the entertainment unit (it had the dreaded vertical lines), and the only comment I got from the service guy was that he liked the way it looked. Maybe they're more lenient if it doesn't involve the engine or drive train? Maybe it's the person who is looking after you...

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

I'm waiting for a wrecked Tiguan to come up OR for someone to sell me their stock dump/down pipe.

Will chop it right after the cat/cat sensor and weld up 3" piping to it all the way to the slip joiner and reduce it back to fit the stock cat back.

Will also do back to back dyno runs to see if this mod is worthwhile doing (have access to an AWD dyno). Hopefully can score a few solid kWs without any flashing needed.

Then once the warranty runs out, will flash it LOL

[Psych101]

That’s exactly the type of proof I was looking for, saved me reading pages and pages of that thread. I knew I would flush one out [emoji2]

Further info:
TD1 – Main Dealer Warranty ‘Tuning’ Flag - The Volkswagen Club of South Africa

TD1 – Main Dealer Warranty ‘Tuning’ Flag

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

I went to German Performance Garage this morning and met Stephen. What a delight when you meet someone who is so enthusiastic about their job! All set to get it tuned the day after the year 1 service

I’m glad to hear that, it confirms what others have also said! You might be tempted to go to stage 2 or beyond whilst you are there.....how about a downpipe, intake, Intercooler.....oh and a new turbo

[OZROD]

Melbourne_Tiggy, that happened to be one of the most interesting parts of our conversation, he had a lovely new Stage 3 turbo upgrade in his display cabinet.

[Melbourne_Tiggy]

Melbourne_Tiggy, that happened to be one of the most interesting parts of our conversation, he had a lovely new Stage 3 turbo upgrade in his display cabinet.

You are in good hands with those blokes, they also are licensed TVS Dealers so perhaps see whether you can work out a bundle deal with your APR ECU tune. This is something I’d recommend to anyone who is getting an ECU tune to consider getting a TCU tune for drivability (and faster gear shifts and higher LC for those performance inclined).

[Dutch77]

You pay to play as has been suggested.

Random thoughts:

1. Of course things can be detected but this will only become an issue when something more serious has gone wrong. If you tune, accept that you need to fork out for it if/when it happens.

2. I'd also suggest taking the ethical route and playing games in trying to hide things regardless of your thoughts on the dealership. That's only usually going to end in tears and reduce any chance the dealer will go into bat for you.

3. Pretty sure if I had $300k to splash on a new Porsche I'd have no problems forking out $20k if something went bang.

4. Surprised to hear some dealers offering APR locally? There is an APR product in the USA with limited drivetrain warranties now (presumably akin to what ABT offered a while back) - it isn't anything like this is it?

As I'll be moving shortly into Guy's backyard I will probably discuss with him what he's doing for the five pots.

[Psych101]

Further info:
TD1 – Main Dealer Warranty ‘Tuning’ Flag - The Volkswagen Club of South Africa

TD1 – Main Dealer Warranty ‘Tuning’ Flag

Went back to this thread and it suggests the detection is around foreign software on the ecu and if it is flashed back to stock (i.e. not simply running a stock mode under tuning software) then a previous tune wouldn't be detected. Can anyone verify this?

[Psych101]

Went back to this thread and it suggests the detection is around foreign software on the ecu and if it is flashed back to stock (i.e. not simply running a stock mode under tuning software) then a previous tune wouldn't be detected. Can anyone verify this?

See posts #13 and #15 from APR rep (not sure if things have changed from 2012 though):

Have APR Tune - Want to go back to stock for good - TD1 issues?

Have APR Tune - Want to go back to stock for good - TD1 issues?

[FastMitch]

1) What kW & Nm increase do you get above the standard Tiguan Highline 162kW & 350Nm with the APR Stage 1 ECU Flash ?

2) Is there any mechanical difference between the Golf GTI 162 kW vs Golf GTI 180 kW engines or is the kW / Nm increase just from Tuning/Flashing-ECU ?