The Official Mk7 Golf DSG / Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[VR28LT]

Well i have it booked in for Friday, its done approx 30k and is 1.5 months past the 3 years warranty Im 100% sure it has a problem . According to the wife its been present for a long time but she thought it was normal, she only said something because the shudder got worse. If im out of luck and vw dont cover the costs then i wll trade it in for the same car but in a manual.

[VR28LT]

Yes the 5 year warranty deal was for a short term period at the height of the (false) DSG scares.

VW actually told me 'we are dropping back to three years because if we keep it at five people will think something is wrong with it' - I would prefer to have bad thoughts and peace of mind myself.

How many of the other DSGs in your family group are six speed/wet a la your GTI v the seven speed/dry box? Unfortunately that's where the problem may lie.

7 dsgs in total 5xdq250 6sp 1xdq500 and 1 piece of s@#t dq200 7sp

[VR28LT]

Depends on when you ordered your car.

Golf brochure with the 5 year warranty: http://www.eaglehawk.com.au/download...-web-final.pdf

Golf brochure with standard warranty: http://www.eaglehawk.com.au/download...g-warranty.pdf

Basically, it seems end of July 2013, they switched back to standard warranty. But that doesn't mean anything if they sold it to you with what appears to be standard 5 year warranty. Good luck.

if i could get my hands on this brochure i could argue thats what i bought the car because it said it had a 5 year warranty on transmission hahaha
see how we go on Friday. Other then the shudder its such a great versatile car

[VR28LT]

Ok so i dropped the car off on friday for its 3 year / 45k service and to report the shuddering gearbox.... although the car is out of warranty by about 7 weeks VW have given us a xmas present and accepted a goodwill claim and will be replacing the clutch packs. Strange thing is that when i picked the car up the shudder has all but disappeared !? how on earth is this possible lol Ive driven about 200kms since picking up the car running around town doing the xmas shopping and its driving better then ever. It has me questioning if i should even bother to go ahead with goodwill claim

[mummbles]

Do it, you won't get another go with them willing to fix it for nix I wouldn't think.

[Valvster]

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Most definitely get the clutch pack done as you will get the latest issue with upgraded larger spigot bearing, actuating lever, friction material and an additional 2 year warranty on the work.

[mister_p]

Hi all


After 3 years of juddering and software updates, VW finally gave in and installed a new clutch pack in my 2012 1.4 TSI 160PS mk6 golf under warranty.


The clutch part no. is 0AM198140S which I have not been able to find much information on anywhere. On a few popular forums, I came across an older 0AM198140C mentioned.


Does anyone know much about the 0AM198140S ? Is it the same as the latest clutch pack used in the mk7 ?, has the judder/wearing issue been addressed ?, Will the clutch last much longer ?


Since the onset of the judder, I started using manual mode in traffic situations and managed to squeeze 50,000 miles out of the factory clutch pack. However, I am now at a crossroads where I wonder if I should sell the car or use it for another 3 years using manual mode when required.


Thanks

[zardoz]

Heya,

I've got an MY14 Wagon with the 7 speed DSG.

I've had shuddering issues from about 6 weeks of ownership. I previously had the mark 6 wagon with the same 7 speed transmission and it was so good to get back into a smooth car - for a while. I would have bought an R wagon at the time if they existed just so I could get away from the 7 speed but they didn't exist...

I finally convinced my dealer to replace the clutch packs and all was well for about another 4-6 weeks and now the issue has returned.

I do notice the issue as a slight loss of power as well and the ACC struggles to make sense of the shudder.

Interesting to see mention of the wastegate rattle. I get a metallic rattling/vibration sound on takeoff especially when the car is colder. Wonder if that's it...

Is there a revised part number that should avoid this issue? My car runs out of warranty in August and I am keen to have this resolved. The last time I had the car in at the dealer, they had it for nearly two weeks (required a sunroof re-fit due to a leak) so I am losing a lot of time with this vehicle that is, otherwise, magic to drive.

I really don't want to go back to the dealer every three months for a cluck pack replacement

[Liammm]

Heya,

I've got an MY14 Wagon with the 7 speed DSG.

I've had shuddering issues from about 6 weeks of ownership. I previously had the mark 6 wagon with the same 7 speed transmission and it was so good to get back into a smooth car - for a while. I would have bought an R wagon at the time if they existed just so I could get away from the 7 speed but they didn't exist...

I finally convinced my dealer to replace the clutch packs and all was well for about another 4-6 weeks and now the issue has returned.

I do notice the issue as a slight loss of power as well and the ACC struggles to make sense of the shudder.

Interesting to see mention of the wastegate rattle. I get a metallic rattling/vibration sound on takeoff especially when the car is colder. Wonder if that's it...

Is there a revised part number that should avoid this issue? My car runs out of warranty in August and I am keen to have this resolved. The last time I had the car in at the dealer, they had it for nearly two weeks (required a sunroof re-fit due to a leak) so I am losing a lot of time with this vehicle that is, otherwise, magic to drive.

I really don't want to go back to the dealer every three months for a cluck pack replacement

Hey Zardoz ,

Volkswagen has released a revised clutch pack repair kit for the newer 7 speed dsg . I have only recently noticed the new style clutch in the last month or so. This new style clutch ends with a part number G instead of the previous letters L or M and S. As far as I'm aware this new style clutch combats both the squeaking and shuddering issues.

If your unhappy with the way your car is changing gears whether it's a noise or shudder . Call your local dealership voice your complaints and ask for a test drive with a tech or foreman.

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[zardoz]

Hey Zardoz ,

Volkswagen has released a revised clutch pack repair kit for the newer 7 speed dsg . I have only recently noticed the new style clutch in the last month or so. This new style clutch ends with a part number G instead of the previous letters L or M and S. As far as I'm aware this new style clutch combats both the squeaking and shuddering issues.

If your unhappy with the way your car is changing gears whether it's a noise or shudder . Call your local dealership voice your complaints and ask for a test drive with a tech or foreman.

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I've got a test drive with the foreman tomorrow, as they can't seem to find anything wrong this time. Car has approx two weeks left of warranty, so I am very concerned. Just like suspension squeak and wastegate rattles that they can't find, either... nor rattles in the door. Hopefully I can show them *something*.

The loaner vehicle has shudder issues, too! And it's worse!

[zardoz]

Hey Zardoz ,

Volkswagen has released a revised clutch pack repair kit for the newer 7 speed dsg . I have only recently noticed the new style clutch in the last month or so. This new style clutch ends with a part number G instead of the previous letters L or M and S. As far as I'm aware this new style clutch combats both the squeaking and shuddering issues.

If your unhappy with the way your car is changing gears whether it's a noise or shudder . Call your local dealership voice your complaints and ask for a test drive with a tech or foreman.

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Went on the test drive and what do you know, it behaved perfectly. I wish I could have that tech in the car all the time! They also applied a software update to my engine, so I'm not too sure if that's reset a few things. I noticed the gearbox was changing at slightly higher revs than usual, but that could be attributed to our cold spell and the fact that it was the first time the car was driven today.

The car has the S clutch packs fitted. Apparently, according to the tech there (he's a master tech), the S packs are the latest. Is there any documentation I could point him to that states that the G packs are the ones to get?

Given the issue is documented as intermittent, I hope that they'll honour any issues that crop up in the next few months as I expect it to be more obvious.

[Liammm]

Depending on the model (DQ200) gearbox and issue . The part numbers and design of clutch pack repair kit will vary. In order for the dealer to be paid for any work carried out under warranty the dealer must follow strict guidelines and procedures . The easiest way for this to go pear shaped would be if the dealer has charged out incorrect part numbers . So I'm almost certain they would have fitted the correct revised clutch pack with the latest software update.

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[Mickmok]

Hi sorry about new post but I can't find anything about the issue I'm having with my 2012 Golf TSI.

Initially I was having the shudder in D2 after driving for a bit and stop start driving. I got the clutch packs replaced by a dealerships under warranty but after I got the car back I noticed the car appeared to slip throughout acceleration in D3 and D4. This wasn't happening prior to getting the clutch packs done.

I ended up taking it to another dealer as the first one refused to admit it was an issue. The second depart replaced the clutch packs and the flywheel. But the same issue remains. Now they are saying they can't replicate it.

Has anyone heard of this before? To me it seems like the gears are slipping for a fraction of a second especially if going up hills when the car is cold. But I even notice a very small amount of movement in the tacho in D6 when cruising. Any help would be great as I may need to try pointing the dealer in the right direction.

Thanks

[blower]

Hey Zardoz ,

Volkswagen has released a revised clutch pack repair kit for the newer 7 speed dsg . I have only recently noticed the new style clutch in the last month or so. This new style clutch ends with a part number G instead of the previous letters L or M and S. As far as I'm aware this new style clutch combats both the squeaking and shuddering issues.

If your unhappy with the way your car is changing gears whether it's a noise or shudder . Call your local dealership voice your complaints and ask for a test drive with a tech or foreman.

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Heard it all before from VW....new revised clutch back fitted in 2012, on my Mk6 160ps (118kw)....15000 miles later its shuddering. Come 2015, new revised clutch pack fitted. 20,000 miles later its shuddering.

Now the shuddering is back again, i've had enough so bit the bullet on a project idea i've had in the back of my head for a while....the nuclear option....

Retrofitting a 6 speed dual WET clutch box from a Mk5 1.4 tsi 125kw.

Not cheap, not easy and hard to get hold of a used wet clutch for the 1.4 tsi as not many model years were fitted with them and you can't retro a wet dsg from any other engine as the bell housing is different

Besides from the box i have to also change:

-starter motor
-both axles
-dual mass flywheel
-needle bearing
-gearbox mount
-Coolant lines for the dsg oil cooler
-New clutch pack (this is a used box with 68k miles, don't know what condition clutch is in so bought a new one)

Also had to reverse engineer and rewire the mechatronics connection, along with work out exactly where the dsg oil cooler should connect up to the coolant circuit, along with the bypass thermostat.

It should all work, and with luck i'll have the smooth box i had in my last car (mk5 tdi dsg) - which i really really miss...

Got pretty much all the parts now, including the used box which arrived today. Will start the install soon and do an install log somewhere on this forum.

[LibraR]

Heard it all before from VW....new revised clutch back fitted in 2012, on my Mk6 160ps (118kw)....15000 miles later its shuddering. Come 2015, new revised clutch pack fitted. 20,000 miles later its shuddering.

Now the shuddering is back again, i've had enough so bit the bullet on a project idea i've had in the back of my head for a while....the nuclear option....

Retrofitting a 6 speed dual WET clutch box from a Mk5 1.4 tsi 125kw.

Not cheap, not easy and hard to get hold of a used wet clutch for the 1.4 tsi as not many model years were fitted with them and you can't retro a wet dsg from any other engine as the bell housing is different

Besides from the box i have to also change:

-starter motor
-both axles
-dual mass flywheel
-needle bearing
-gearbox mount
-Coolant lines for the dsg oil cooler
-New clutch pack (this is a used box with 68k miles, don't know what condition clutch is in so bought a new one)

Also had to reverse engineer and rewire the mechatronics connection, along with work out exactly where the dsg oil cooler should connect up to the coolant circuit, along with the bypass thermostat.

It should all work, and with luck i'll have the smooth box i had in my last car (mk5 tdi dsg) - which i really really miss...

Got pretty much all the parts now, including the used box which arrived today. Will start the install soon and do an install log somewhere on this forum.

Mate good luck with that. It seems like a huge amount of hassle and expense to retain the 1.4 motor. Selling and getting a GTI not an option you considered?

Hopefully it all works out well for you in the transmission transplant...