The Official Mk7 Golf DSG / Clutch / Shudder / Squeal Issues Thread

[Baz 55]

Great info Valvstar, thanks.
I'm thinking two ways, I have the good upgraded gear now, keep the car longer or dump it in the next 12 months.
I have a platinum warranty for an extra 3 years which covers up to $3000.
This would cover most items.

[Rawcpoppa]

I honestly believe the software update is more important than changes to the clutches. That's my hunch. I have clutches from a 2012 Jetta.

Does the judder in D mode gear when it changes from 1 to 2 at low speeds after the clutches have warmed up.
When driven in manual mode where gear 1 is held for longer there is no judder.

[Valvster]

Haven't had any judder for the last 5 days as it's been cool and only short drives, dropped it off this morning and got a base model 90TSI as an overnight loaner with 1200km on the clock. Software seems slightly different and a bit cluncky changing down into 2nd and 1st but that could be the box has adapted to numerous drivers giving it a caning.
Service adviser also said a new larger spigot bearing comes with the new clutch pack which helps with heat disipation.
Apparently earlier spigot bearing's affected tolerances as the clutch heats up in stop start conditions and contributed to clutch judder.

Valvster

[Valvster]

So the latest revision clutch pack has been fitted and all is good.

VW Part Number OAM198140L

This has been fitted to all vehicles by the main dealer in Adelaide since May2015 and there have been no failures (of course May in Adelaide is the start of winter so this summer will be the real test if it's a heat related problem).
The previous part number fitted to my October 2013 build was OAM198140C.
Software was also updated and the car drives similar to the loaner I had, no longer quite so eager to change up to 7th at 60kph and a bit more responsive to change to a lower gear.
I don't notice any change with gears 1 and 2 but it is definitely more driveable in city traffic.
Here is a guide to all things DSG from LuK the clutch manufacturer

http://lal-auto.ru/imgbank/tcd/pdf/00060041702255.pdf

and at the bottom of page 2 is a video on fitting a new dry twin clutch pack
Schaeffler Automotive Aftermarket Germany *|*Media Library *|*Videos

Cheers....Valvster

[WallySimmonds]

How can you tell what one you have? I have a 2015 July build, so presuming mines all good =)

[jayburls]

Had my TSI104 Golf serviced at 45K. A wk later my gearbox has started to thump when cold starting btwn 1 and 2, sometimes 2 to 3. Havent rang the dealer yet. I'm guessing I will need to asap reading these posts.

[Matticus]

Is it normal to have a slight shuddering/vibrating feeling from accelerating from a very low speed in gear 2, especially when turning a corner? It's definitely slight, but it's noticeable in the right conditions. Otherwise the gearbox is great.

I have the 7 speed DSG in my 2009 118TSI with the clutch pack replaced 12 months ago. I'd be fine if it didn't get worse, as this this my 3rd clutch pack on this car.

[Stelex]

Is it normal to have a slight shuddering/vibrating feeling from accelerating from a very low speed in gear 2, especially when turning a corner? It's definitely slight, but it's noticeable in the right conditions. Otherwise the gearbox is great.

I have the 7 speed DSG in my 2009 118TSI with the clutch pack replaced 12 months ago. I'd be fine if it didn't get worse, as this this my 3rd clutch pack on this car.

That's how it starts. I had the clutch pack replaced on my mk6 118TSI three times in 4 years and 110.000km. My wife's Golf 7 90TSI had the same symptoms from about 22.000km, now at just over 30K it's awful and needs replacement on the next service.

Nothing has changed from Golf 6 to Golf 7, exactly the same issue with the clutch packs. You can expect to get anywhere between 20-30.000km out of the clutch pack, before it needs replacement. The cost is from memory about $2k.

[Matticus]

That's how it starts. I had the clutch pack replaced on my mk6 118TSI three times in 4 years and 110.000km. My wife's Golf 7 90TSI had the same symptoms from about 22.000km, now at just over 30K it's awful and needs replacement on the next service.

Nothing has changed from Golf 6 to Golf 7, exactly the same issue with the clutch packs. You can expect to get anywhere between 20-30.000km out of the clutch pack, before it needs replacement. The cost is from memory about $2k.

Thanks Stelex.

You'd think with several iterations of the clutch pack and various software updates that they'd be better by now. I should have warranty for another 12 months for the pack (proving it to VW is another story), but I will probably sell the car in 6 months and avoid all of the hassle.

[gradius]

Weird squeaking noise when going from stationary

I have a 3 year old 103TSI that has only run 11,000km. Recently there has been a weird squeaking noise when the car goes from stationary. My friend told me that it sounds like the clutch is slipping when it shifts gear. You can listen to the noise below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/188xolwlcmgb5x2/Voice0015%5B1%5D.mp3?dl=0

I'll bring my car to the dealer to check but I reckon it's going to be difficult to show them the problem as it only happens after about 30 minutes to 1 hour of driving the car.


What do you think the problem is?

[Martin]

If the clutch was slipping it would do it in 1st when you drive off and you would see the RPM higher than the road speed
Clutches generally don't squeak unless they have worn completely through the friction material
It's a funny little noise, does not sound like a clutch (or even a release bearing)
Is it a manual or DSG?

[veew]

Definitely your clutch. Happened to me a while back b/w 2-3 gear shifts, occurred a bit after 6000km. Never affected drivability at all but I made sure the clutch got replaced. The sound disappeared following the clutch replacement. Your dealer should be requesting to keep the car for a day or two to allow them to replicate the issue if it only occurs after a prolonged drive. Keep us updated.

You can follow this thread here, download my audio file and you'll see it sounds exactly like your squeak.

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f197/dsg-squeal-96872-4.html#post1076980

[danielb_c]

I'd say it's your car crying because it's basically just been kept in a garage for 3 years. [emoji12]
How did you manage to only do 11,000kms?

[Das Hemi]

Another Mk7 DSG with shudder

Hi, I purchased a Mk7 90TSI DSG7 plated September 2013 new from the local dealer.
The car now has 84,000km on it.
It had been running superbly until around the 60k mark where I noticed a shudder start to develop.
It has not worsened to date but i think i should have it dealt with before the warranty runs out.

It is a work car so I do around 35k a year in it.

The shudder:
Seems to always occur at very low revs and when engine is under load. -particularly a cold engine
Example: Slowly reversing out of my driveway on an incline.
Slowly accelerating away from a stop on an incline.

I generally drive with zest so the shudder is rarely felt. Seems like when you use the semi-auto mode everything is fine and dandy.

What is far more annoying than the shudder is the rattle from the wastegate clip. I had it fixed at 30k nut it returned at 60k. Need to fix it again at next service which is in a week.

[bbz1000]

Is it normal to have a slight shuddering/vibrating feeling from accelerating from a very low speed in gear 2, especially when turning a corner? It's definitely slight, but it's noticeable in the right conditions. Otherwise the gearbox is great.

I have the 7 speed DSG in my 2009 118TSI with the clutch pack replaced 12 months ago. I'd be fine if it didn't get worse, as this this my 3rd clutch pack on this car.

3rd clutch pack?! wow these cars... you'd think with all the free warranty repair VW complete they could just build a stable reliable car.