Mark 7 Boot Less Depth

[Arnold]

Are there any posts on the whys and wherefors of the Mark 7 boot which is not as deep, front to back, as in the Mark Fix?

Anyway, I went into my local VW dealer today to do my final evaluation, bringing with me one of my two large suitcases, both of which sit side by side, laid flat, in the back of my Mark V, providing I put the rear seat backrests forward temporarily before placing them in the boot.

No such luck in the showroom with the Mark 7 with the floor in either position or completely removed. Interesting in this regard that unlike the 6R Polo arrangement, the Mark 7 does not provide a second floor.

I have read elsewhere (Boot reduction in size... - GOLFMK7 - VW GTI MKVII Forum / VW Golf R Forum / VW Golf MKVII Forum) that the boot is, on one account, 1.5" less deep, front to back.

If so, VW has managed to create a larger car with a less practical (shorter) boot. Possibly the biggest travesty since the Monty Hall thread (http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...ighlight=Monty) was closed before buller_scott and team_v had figured it out. Travesty!

So what to do? Audi Sportwagon? Can you get an A3 with GTI-like grunt and a 6MT? Or a newer Mark VI . . . or new luggage, as the helpful saleswoman suggested?

PS - Can you put snow chains on the 18" rims on the GTI? Roofrack World tell me the Rudd Centrax I bought for my Mark V 17" rims will not suit the 18" wheels on the Mark 7.

Can you fit Mark Fix 17" rims to a Mark 7 for trips to the snow?

[godzilla_110TDI]

The mk7 boot has a larger capacity than the previous model at 380 l verses 350 from memory

[team_v]

So what to do? Audi Sportwagon? Can you get an A3 with GTI-like grunt and a 6MT? Or a newer Mark VI . . . or new luggage, as the helpful saleswoman suggested?

PS - Can you put snow chains on the 18" rims on the GTI? Roofrack World tell me the Rudd Centrax I bought for my Mark V 17" rims will not suit the 18" wheels on the Mark 7.

Can you fit Mark Fix 17" rims to a Mark 7 for trips to the snow?

Buy a tiguan.
Bigger boot, more cabin room, sliding/folding 60/40 rear seats.
AWD with clearance and can fit snow chains.

[Arnold]

The mk7 boot has a larger capacity than the previous model at 380 l verses 350 from memory

...but less boot depth front to rear so does not accommodate bags the Mark Fix does...

[Arnold]

Buy a tiguan.
Bigger boot, more cabin room, sliding/folding 60/40 rear seats.
AWD with clearance and can fit snow chains.

Considered the Tiguan option, briefly, and note new Tiguan due in October, however only the 2WD is available in manual. Like the sliding rear seats. Nothing unique about 60/40 split seats, of course. Clearance for snow chains and <18" wheels would be nice although Rudd Centrax and Thule chains, I understand, will fit Mark 7 GTIs.

The Octavia RS sedan has more boot space than the GTI . . . same engine too!

Driving the auto GTI this afternoon I could imagine what it felt to be a hairdresser so effortless and unengaging was the drive compared with the less costly and more engaging 6MT which journos regard as one of the finest manual boxes on the market. Might have to get some new luggage!

Interesting review of 6MT vs DSG Mark 7 GTI by-and-large favours the 6MT, save for benefits of DSG in traffic for lazy drivers: Volkswagen Golf GTI gearbox comparison : Manual v DSG | CarAdvice.

Thanks for the suggestions.

[kennyc]

Well my golf buggy would fit in the boot folded up on the Mark 4.
On the Mark 7 I have to take one wheel off as front to back it is smaller.

[Arnold]

Well my golf buggy would fit in the boot folded up on the Mark 4.
On the Mark 7 I have to take one wheel off as front to back it is smaller.

This is a travesty; a travesty I tell ya!

More particularly, it presents an excellent example of retrograde design.

Congratulations VW for creating a larger, less practical Golf.

Not easily done, to be sure, but "you" will be made to pay!

Stupidity must be punished.

Yes indeed, that's for sure!

[tigger73]

Mark 7 Boot Less Depth

Isn't that why they make the Golf wagon????


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[Arnold]

So VW can make the Golf hatch less of an all-rounder?

I think not.

I am pretty sure that this change to the boot would qualify the Mark 7 Golf as being in rare, if not exclusive, company indeed: cars that have less usable boot space in a successor model.

[i286]

VW is not exception in this. All new model cars are getting bigger in size but with less space in the cabin. Golf has increased boot volume on the Mk7 but dimensions in millimeters are different so in your situation is less usable, but many other will find it just right.
At least Mk7 went on diet and is lighter than predecessor.
I personally have a problem with reduced visibility from the driver seat in new cars generally, not just Golf.

[team_v]

So VW can make the Golf hatch less of an all-rounder?

I think not.

I am pretty sure that this change to the boot would qualify the Mark 7 Golf as being in rare, if not exclusive, company indeed: cars that have less usable boot space in a successor model.

How often would a car owner need to utilise 100% of the available boot space vs relative comfort of passengers due to increased cabin space?
I would hazard a guess that the majority of owners/passengers appreciate the extra room far more than they would the extra boot space for 1 or 2 times a year.

As Damien pointed out, if boot space is that essential, you can buy the golf/octavia wagon or the Tiguan.

[Arnold]

Typical VWW comment...that treats a comment on ONE aspect of the car (boot size in this case) as if it should be allowed to trump all others, eg:

If you think a particular Golf is not good value, then buy an Hyundai.

If the grip of a Golf is not what you hoped for, buy a 4WD.

If you don't like (unprecedented in history of Golf) reduction in Golf boot depth, buy a wagon that is 300mm to 450mm longer, even if you like the Golf for its Tardis-like properties.

No, reducing the boot size while increasing the overall length of the car is a ****-up by VW and if I do buy a Mark 7 I will exact some measure revenge.

Imagine if the Mark 8 repeated the boot size reduction, and then the Mark 9. Would you still be there saying it is worth the extra legroom when boot depth could have been maintained while increasing legroom?

It is like saying your chances of winning a one-in three guess in the Monty Hall dilemma increase from 33% to 50% depending on the order in which the doors are opened. Does not make sense.

[Arnold]

All new model cars are getting bigger in size but with less space in the cabin.

Without any equivocation I can say either you are making this up or something is not quite right.

[team_v]

Typical VWW comment...that treats a comment on ONE aspect of the car (boot size in this case) as if it should be allowed to trump all others, eg:

If you think a particular Golf is not good value, then buy an Hyundai.

If the grip of a Golf is not what you hoped for, buy a 4WD.

If you don't like (unprecedented in history of Golf) reduction in Golf boot depth, buy a wagon that is 300mm to 450mm longer, even if you like the Golf for its Tardis-like properties.

No, reducing the boot size while increasing the overall length of the car is a ****-up by VW and if I do buy a Mark 7 I will exact some measure revenge.

Imagine if the Mark 8 repeated the boot size reduction, and then the Mark 9. Would you still be there saying it is worth the extra legroom when boot depth could have been maintained while increasing legroom?

It is like saying your chances of winning a one-in three guess in the Monty Hall dilemma increase from 33% to 50% depending on the order in which the doors are opened. Does not make sense.

You are delusional.
It's called product differentiation and it happeens in almost all successful businesses.
There are a number of cars in the VAG range that suit the requirements you specifically asked for regarding boot space.
When we point them out you argue that it isn't a golf hatch so you don't want it.

Good luck buying a car if you want a golf hatch that does everything better than any targeted VW model.

[Dutch77]

LOL, apparently increasing the cargo space by over 8% while reducing the length of the car was bad planning by VW because they didn't measure all luggage on the market for fitment.