Golf Mk7 Towing/Towbar Thread

[Euro Car Upgrades]

great thanks. Any reason then why the dealers say there’s no towbar for the Golf r mk 7.5 then?

Unsure

[donweather]

Yes it is

great thanks. Any reason then why the dealers say there’s no towbar for the Golf r mk 7.5 then?

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Westfalia? And fully legal compliant with ADR?

Yes it is

[donweather]

Yes you can, different bar to hatch and wiring need to be done to your dash as no preparation on these.

Westfalia? And fully legal compliant with ADR?

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Anyone know if you can fit a towbar to a Mk 7.5 Golf R wagon?

Yes you can, different bar to hatch and wiring need to be done to your dash as no preparation on these.

[donweather]

Anyone know if you can fit a towbar to a Mk 7.5 Golf R wagon?

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Westfalia gooseneck attachments on its own are rated at 6 Tonnes on its own.
Its the car which limits you.
There is also a difference in calculations between ADR and other design rules.
Quality of HR tow bars which are made in Thailand and China nowadays is questionable from the install perspective.
Last one ATP did on HSV Commo - instructions says drill 13mm holes - nowhere near fits. The rep said - just drill 24mm - she'll be allright.

[Guest001]

Yep, i understand the rules. Just those ones look "flimsier" than the square removable VW or HR ones that are on my passat. So i wondered if they had a lower weight limit.

Fair enough but wasnt aimed at you or anyone Is just a general heads up as lots dont know or dont understand


The Westfalia ones will do the job they are rated for HR are embedded in heavy towbars for towing vans and havent worked out that a light one will do for small cars

[FarQ]

Yep the ADR rules on towing are

The rated towing limit of the towbar or the vehicle as set by the manufacturer

Whichever is the LESSER

EG
Towbar 2500kg Car 2000kg =2000kg

Towbar 1500kg car 2000kg =1500kg

The towball limit is whats in your cars manual and is the limit set by the manufacturer

So if the towbars ball limit is 150kg and cars limit is 90kg =90kg No way around it.

Yep, i understand the rules. Just those ones look "flimsier" than the square removable VW or HR ones that are on my passat. So i wondered if they had a lower weight limit.

[Guest001]

Yep the ADR rules on towing are

The rated towing limit of the towbar or the vehicle as set by the manufacturer

Whichever is the LESSER

EG
Towbar 2500kg Car 2000kg =2000kg

Towbar 1500kg car 2000kg =1500kg

The towball limit is whats in your cars manual and is the limit set by the manufacturer

So if the towbars ball limit is 150kg and cars limit is 90kg =90kg No way around it.

[Paul_R]

The tow ball weight should still be 90 kg. It’s set by the car, not the ball if you get my meaning. We had a 300+ kg capable HR ball on the Passat but it was limited to 90 kg because that’s what VW said it should be. I suppose it’s theoretically possible to put a ball rated less than 90 kg on the car but it would need to be made out of pipe cleaners or attached to the number plate fittings.

[FarQ]

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wonder what the tow ball weight limit is on those types.The VW & HR ones for my passat alltrack state 90kg tow ball weight limit.

[Euro Car Upgrades]

[doc_777]

If I had my time again, I would have installed a westfalia on my Passat Alltrack Wolfsburg rather than the VW Aus towbar. The westfalia are are much neater installation IMO.

[Euro Car Upgrades]

Thanks, called an installer but they said Westfalia no longer being sold in Australia. In better news, called another VW dealer and they can do it for under $1700.

That's not necessarily correct with Westfalia, they were bought our by Horizon for Australian branch. Their stock of over 800 tow bars was purchased and we are their distributor.
With VW you need to cut your bumper whereas with Westfalia, it attaches from underneath the car.