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I bought my gti 6 months ago from the Sutherland dealership as I am also local, and I couldnt agree more the guys there are bunch of wank jobs. I ended up going straight through the dealer principal and he put together a great deal to make up for his sales team lack of effort. Spirro is the only salesman there that was actually helpful. So if anyone is in the local area I suggest seeing spiro at sutherland as the dealer principal has just accepted a nother role with volkswagen in mascot or parramatta i cant remember which one.
yes I also got the indifferent treatment from the sales staff when enquiring about a manual Golf R, and simply took my business elsewhere, when it came to replacing the GTI.
Sutherland Volkswagen have some odd ways. They do have good first up deals, but sometime are short on stock. My neighbour Ray likes Spiro at Sutho, although Ray prefers to deal with Barloworld - Five Dock more so as they seem to be looking to develop better and ongoing relationships. Here's an EVO youtube.com review of the choice Volkswagen Golf in the range: 5 door Golf GTI PP Manual Trans with 18" wheels & DCC:
Now where is that Golf 7: GTI -v- R thread gone to?
After the right mess that became of that thread in the Mk6 section, I'm not keen for a similar thread to cause more trouble again. If you want to post anything that relates to one or the other models there are the respective discussion threads for each, which I'm sure will suffice. Sorry WJ.
I see that the 33kg heavier Skoda RS was 0.6 sec a lap slower than the PP GTI around Winton Raceway. This has me thinking: What sort of lap time would a Standard Man Trans GTI do, given that it is 93 kgs lighter than the Skoda and up to 60kgs lighter than the PP GTI. Surely there could not be that much difference in track time between STD GTI -v- PP GTI?
There is a YouTube video shot in the UK comparing a manual pp vs dsg gti. The pp was quicker on the track and I expect the manual was the better tranny for track work. Quite a few vids of manual vs dsg with 0-100 times being consistent and faster with dsg. Would like to see this showdown myself
My standard Golf 7 GTI manual transmission is approaching 1 year of age & has not consumed any oil in the first 12 months. Testament to my run in methodology? Most likely.
Additionally, I notified my service department to review the initial 3-5 min rough idle/engine shudder during initial warm-up phase. Volkswagen Service have indicated that they have had other reports of Volkswagens (Golf GTI and Polo) with similar issue during initial warm up phase.
Service could not replicate it as the engine was warm when the car was brought in for service, but did allude that I was able to leave the Golf GTI overnight so as they could perform a cold-start up in the morning. At this stage, I’ve had it noted on their and my file should anything transpire.
I don’t think it’s anything terminal, as my GTI has used no oil, rather, a symptom of the start up phase fueling that has the motor struggling to run efficiently, for the purpose of a faster warm up.
My Golf 7 GTI oil temp is at 95 degrees when the old MK6 Golf GTI was at 80 degrees.
I also indicated to Volkswagen Service that it may also be a factor of less clean local Australian fuel, more importantly, a combination of warm up fuelling in concert with dirtier Australian fuel?
During the initial service, Volkswagen also conducted a recall for the software in connection with the electronic park brake – no further into as to why.
Service indicated that they have put in different oil than used during the initial run-in phase oil used for the first 15,000km. Apparently, the oil used first up is a particular type of run in oil, according to the service dept.
Otherwise all good with my 1 year old Golf 7 GTI.
Later on: perhaps some more impressions after 1 year of ownership.
Run-in procedure was as per Owner's Manual guidelines.
I collected the GTI straight from the dealer, drove from Sydney to the hills of Kangaroo Valley, inland of Wollongong. Two hill-climbs up & down Macquarie Pass. Likewise on the other side of the mountain up & down Kangaroo Valley on the same day (Jamberoo is also good). Each hill climb is about 15 min in duration, expanding the motor through heat and thinning the oil a bit. During this time, no more than half throttle, gentle throttle applications and revs varied between 2,000rpm to 4,000rpm only. I'd recommend doing this in the first 150km of driving if not straight from the dealership.
This type of driving was performed a 2nd time before 500km, and again before 1,000km mark. Between 800km-1,000km the rev limit was raised to 4,500rpm with no more than half to 2/3rds of max throttle application.
I don't recommend sitting on static low revs, stop/start traffic as the piston rings do not receive enough boost to make them expand and seal against the bore sufficiently. Turbo's need to be on boost with some load-on/load-off for run-in imo. I do not recommend driving it like you stole it, especially with WOT as WOT dumps excess fuel into the chamber, possibly causing the washing out of oil with excess fuel. This may cause the bore to scorch.
I followed this procedure with both the MK6 Golf GTI and new Golf 7 GTI ... neither GTI used a drop of oil between yearly services.
My Golf 7 GTI oil temp is at 95 degrees when the old MK6 Golf GTI was at 80 degrees. WJ
Doesn't that depend on ambient temperatures and the type of driving being done? My 90 TSI sits on 95 degrees in winter day temps of around 15 degrees but in summer now it is around 102 degrees and has gone as high as 108 degrees when it was cruising at 110km/h in 46 degrees last summer and reached an all time high of 111 degrees when climbing some ranges in 3rd gear in 38 degrees temps. It hasn't made it use any oil in its 56,000km of driving though in the last 17 months.
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