Voice Control and Speech - Issues and Questions

[Idle]

Idle: No I have not tried to copy a VW card. Is there any infromation available about the encryption protocols that VW uses on their cards?

As per the note below,you can't use just any old CD card — it has to comply with VW's standard (which so far I've not found — not that I've looked all that hard...)

"Please note:

Because the navigation data are stored on the SD card meaning it has to stay in the vehicle, the card is subject to extreme environmental conditions. In order to ensure that the navigation system keeps functioning correctly, your Discover Media will only accept Volkswagen-approved SD cards. If your original card is lost or damaged, you can obtain a replacement from your local Volkswagen service partner."

The link below will give you all the information available on updating maps — but only for Europe.

We seem to be ignored.

Instruksjoner "Discover Media" < Oppdatering av kartverk < Radio & navigasjonsystem nedlastninger

[stedes]

As per the note below,you can't use just any old CD card — it has to comply with VW's standard (which so far I've not found — not that I've looked all that hard...)

"Please note:

Because the navigation data are stored on the SD card meaning it has to stay in the vehicle, the card is subject to extreme environmental conditions. In order to ensure that the navigation system keeps functioning correctly, your Discover Media will only accept Volkswagen-approved SD cards. If your original card is lost or damaged, you can obtain a replacement from your local Volkswagen service partner."

The link below will give you all the information available on updating maps — but only for Europe.

We seem to be ignored.

Instruksjoner "Discover Media" < Oppdatering av kartverk < Radio & navigasjonsystem nedlastninger

I've followed this thread with great interest over the past few months and I thought I'd offer my 2c even though our car is still on the way...

It appears to be yet another, very amateur, mistake on VWA's part. When I ordered my car in March 2014 I was told by the salesman before signing on the dotted line that the Voice control feature is not standard and that was a mistake in the brochure. So I personally can't go down the complaint route. However...it's interesting that if one looks at the German accessories brochure, the voice control upgrade is listed as an actual accessory with different prices (and part numbers) for Composition and Discover Media (see pics). While that doesn't negate VWAs responsibility to people who already have their cars, it does point to the existence of an easy way to do the upgrade (via SD card).

SD Cards follow an industry standard and I would be very surprised if only some of them work with these units. I am not aware of VW releasing a "compatibility list" of SD cards that work with the Composition or Discover Media but from reports on this and other fora it seems most normal SD cards work fine for music. While there may be an encryption on the card itself anyone with a bit more than basic computer knowledge can make an exact image of the SD card containing the update for voice control and "burn" the image onto a new SD card. The only thing that we do not yet know is that whether these updates are VIN specific...i.e. tied to each specific car VIN for verification...it would seem to be a lot of work for VW to produce individual SD cards for each car for this update....or it may just be wishful thinking.

I hope the pics help if people need to part numbers for the upgrade. One point to note again is the presence of two different part numbers for each unit.

[ameel]

Vw Australia re voice control and sat nav

Ive got a 90tsi comfortline.

Looks like vw Australia have new info, at least compared to couple months ago.

1) Voice control
Can be fitted on any model, but part depends on whether you have Satnav or not. It's called 'voice activation kit'.
For those without Satnav, it's part number 5G0054802.
For those with Satnav it's 5G0054802A.
Quick google shows this as a software update only???

2) Satnav for vehicles bought without factory-fitted satnav
VW Australia confirmed the rns510 can now be fitted to the golf7.

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[DV52]

Ive got a 90tsi comfortline.

Looks like vw Australia have new info, at least compared to couple months ago.

1) Voice control
Can be fitted on any model, but part depends on whether you have Satnav or not. It's called 'voice activation kit'.
For those without Satnav, it's part number 5G0054802.
For those with Satnav it's 5G0054802A.
Quick google shows this as a software update only???

2) Satnav for vehicles bought without factory-fitted satnav
VW Australia confirmed the rns510 can now be fitted to the golf7.

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ameel: Have you seen my post below. Appology if you have

http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/f197/voice-command-button-steering-wheel-89895-post1019369.html#post1019369

[ameel]

ameel: Have you seen my post below. Appology if you have
http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...ml#post1019369

Yeah I did, but thought there was still discrepancy between dealerships and between dealerships and vw Australia, hence the correct part numbers for those who want to inquire.

Just couple months a dealership made inquiries itself and could not find out what I was talking about. The party number should help I thought.

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[Jimi]

Hmm when I picked mine up the girl assigned to show me around the car said the voice control worked but we didn't test it there and then. I think mine only mutes at this stage but perhaps there are menu options to spur it into life like with the traffic updates?

[ameel]

After further inquiries re voice activation kit, it's an sdcard that contains software for just one car. So I guess when it's activated by the dealership the software is matched against vw database to ensure you're using a unique software rather than copy.

The dealership did make the point it would give me the sdcard and that it would be useless after setup. By the sounds of it the set up also requires vcds programming.

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[flashman1207]

I enquired with dealer wether my new car will have voice control activated and the answer was 'No but we can order from Europe. Will take 4 weeks and cost $477'

Typical Australia rip-off. Having to pay for something that it should already have....

[wasabiz]

I enquired with dealer wether my new car will have voice control activated and the answer was 'No but we can order from Europe. Will take 4 weeks and cost $477'

Typical Australia rip-off. Having to pay for something that it should already have....

no... the SD card itself is already 199 euro if you want to order it, plus theres VCDS tweaking to be done. So I think they only mark up the price by not that much if you include labour.

[flashman1207]

no... the SD card itself is already 199 euro if you want to order it, plus theres VCDS tweaking to be done. So I think they only mark up the price by not that much if you include labour.

I thought it could be done with VCDS anyway. Is this not the case? So, you need a special SD Card....

[ameel]

I enquired with dealer wether my new car will have voice control activated and the answer was 'No but we can order from Europe. Will take 4 weeks and cost $477'

Typical Australia rip-off. Having to pay for something that it should already have....

My dealer said it costs $187 for the sdcard, about a week to get it from SYDNEY. They would charge labour on top, but because of all the stuffing-around I've suffered, they'll do @ no labour cost, i.e. just $187.

I thought it could be done with VCDS anyway. Is this not the case? So, you need a special SD Card....

I think the sdcard software is the same BUT there's probably a UNIQUE key/serial number attached to each sdcard that gets verified on VW database when installed. That's just my guess.

[flashman1207]

My dealer said it costs $187 for the sdcard, about a week to get it from SYDNEY.

As per usual then, we get shafted in WA.....

[ameel]

Just to be clear the part for the Satnav is about $380ish compared to the part for the composition media without Satnav at $180ish. So no one is getting shafted

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[flashman1207]

Just to be clear the part for the Satnav is about $380ish compared to the part for the composition media without Satnav at $180ish. So no one is getting shafted

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Incorrect, If you have Satnav (which I have) then you get shafted !!!!

[boardie_19]

Mk 7 - Voice operation for telephone and navigation system.

Hi all,

Volkswagen have finally released the optional voice operation of navigation functions for models fitted with the optional Discover Media audio and satellite navigation system for Comfortline models (fitted with this option) and for Highligh models which are fitted standard with these units.

Question: Has anyone as yet had this fitted to their vehicle at their local dealership? If so,

• How much did it cost including labour?
• How long did they take to install it?
• What is the quality like? Is it worth the cost?

I am keen to have it fitted, but would like to know from the wider Golf community if anyone has had the actual upgrade fitted.


Thanks!


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