Is the satnav option worthwhile?

[doubtfull]

Hi,

I'm looking to get a 90TSI Comfortline with DSG and the driver assist package.

I'd like to have the integrated satnav, but the $950 option price seems very steep especially given the price of standalone units.

Can anyone give feedback on the built-in unit?
Is it significantly better than a high end stand alone system?

Regards,
Jonathan

[team_v]

The built in unit is beneficial as it gives a readout in the MFD and you don't have to worry about someone breaking in and stealing it or leaving suction rings on your windscreen (which can in itself, lead to break-ins).

I can't say for certain or the newer golf but the RNS510 does not inlcude live traffic updates or up to date maps so in the end a standalone unit will be more functional but not as aesthetic or integrated.

[ziggyboy]

Hi team_v, I believe that the RNS510 cannot process Australian traffic updates (SUNA) unless there was a very recent update I am not aware of. The newer Golfs may have them though...

Also, I don't think anyone steals GPS units anymore as they are so cheap.

[Guest001]

Unless the maps have significantly improved over V6 I would save your money and buy a portable unit.

Far, far better and map updates every 3 months against VW once a year with 2 year old maps.

No proper text to speech Says "turn here" instead of "turn into Smith st" If next turn is more than about 30k away it says " Stay on this road for a very long time" How wonderful is that.

No ability to select fastest or shortest route No traffic as said No speed shown on screen so you cant compare how fast your speedo is (usually 7kph at 100kph)

Lack of named streets in V6 has been complained about in map mode.

Need I go on.

Only $950 Lucky you Mine was $3500 with RVC in 2011 Absolute waste of money.

[wai]

Only $950 Lucky you Mine was $3500 with RVC in 2011 Absolute waste of money.

I was going to say that.

When I bought my Caddy Maxi Life in 2011, it was $4,500 for the RNS-510 to replace the RCD-310. Then on top of that, it was a further $450 for the Bluetooth (the one that stuck out of the dash). I turned it down.

I now have an ANS-610 for just over $600. I figured I could replace it 8 times over and would still have a few dollars to spare.

By the way, the $4,500 did NOT include the RVC. That was almost an additional $1,000.

[Guest001]

I was going to say that.

When I bought my Caddy Maxi Life in 2011, it was $4,500 for the RNS-510 to replace the RCD-310. Then on top of that, it was a further $450 for the Bluetooth (the one that stuck out of the dash). I turned it down.

I now have an ANS-610 for just over $600. I figured I could replace it 8 times over and would still have a few dollars to spare.

By the way, the $4,500 did NOT include the RVC. That was almost an additional $1,000.

I tell a lie Mine was $3600 with Park assist 2 and RVC

Have used Park assist ONCE in 2 years. Car was specced up Wife bought it for my birthday or I would have got a lesser model ROFL

Wonder what I will get this year May take a trip to the Audi dealers LOL

[wai]

Have used Park assist ONCE in 2 years.

Actually I am waiting for owners to get stuck into vehicle manufacturers over park assist.

By law you are required to leave a gap of at least 1 m to the car in front and the one at the rear. This means you need a space of at least 2 m longer than the car. Manufacturers who offer park assist let an acceptable space be identified when it is as little as 800 mm longer than the car. They seem to try and out do each other by saying theirs can park in smaller and smaller spaces, all the while it is drivers who accept the space identified by park assist who will end up with the fine.

One reason more fines are not issued is because it is the "last" driver who has to be fined, and the parking patrol has difficulty identifying the offender. I suppose with more CCTV it will be easier and then watch the parking patrol kick into gear

[Amalgam]

I have to agree with the other posters that an inbuilt GPS is a waste of money.

Disadvantages:
1/ Map upgrades are estimated at $199. Free on most portable units.
2/ Not as advanced as portable units. Less or inferior features.
3/ $950 vs $250
4/ As posted above, how often do you really need your GPS. Me, once every 2 years and normally when I am interstate or overseas in a hire car and you can't bring your inbuilt unit along

Advantages of inbuilt unit:
1/ Intergrated look. No suction cup.
2/ Less sercurity risk for theft. But at from $99 are portable units a real theft item??

We bought our Passat last July and purposely waited to get a car without GPS.

[FSI 220]

We bought our Passat last July and purposely waited to get a car without GPS.

Lucky you didn't wait too long...otherwise you'd be stuffed (TIC)

[Ryan_R]

Happy with my RNS510 ($1100 from eBay). I rarely use navigation but just about always have the Map screen on. It's one thing to know where I'm going, but if I'm stuck in traffic I might see a few side-streets to link up a nice shortcut, or seeing points of interest while driving, plus I like the integrated look. Trouble with the standard GPS for me years ago was the amount of time and kerfuffle getting them fastened, powered, and navigating IF you happened to have it in the car when you needed it. Of course these days Google Maps on your phone more than does the job if the built in maps aren't sufficient.

I'd get them again, in fact I'm hoping the GTI is available with the Pro system with Google Earth maps. Of course we're yet to find out how much that would cost if it's available, we only know it's not (currently) an option for the Highline and below.

[wai]

Satnav is useful, however once you have been to the same place a few times, it is not necessary to get turn by turn instructions.

The iGo Primo software with the ANS-610 is great as it gives you reasonably accurate speed warnings, and if you are travelling much slower than the posted limit on a road, it asks you if you want to try an alternative route because of congestion. It is also good to just have it on when travelling in rural areas as it gives you good advanced warning of up coming things like intersections and the like.

The other thing is that you can explore alternative routes.

So, all up satnav is good, just that the price of the OEM unit is not good value. It is not just the purchase price, but the ongoing cost of mapping. With the ones you stick on the windscreen, if you don't have one with lifetime mapping, there is no point in purchasing just updated maps. You may as well buy a new unit altogether. It is tremendously wasteful of resources however.

[Ryan_R]

You realise this thread is in the Mk7 Golf forum?

[Guest001]

You realise this thread is in the Mk7 Golf forum?

I think he is following on from his prev post spruiking the ANS

My question is why would it suggest an alternative route solely on speed.

When in the USA my TomTom did that but used the Traffic updates to do it not the fact I was under the speed limit.

The RNS does alternative routes but they are a pain in themselves, also does the same in the country. Does it give you free maps or do you have to buy them like most others.

Thats one thing, I havent bought an update in 2 years, either dealer updated it for me or I got one on here.
Hopefully the Golf 7 Nav version has improved somewhat

[cktsi]

i would say if you are not going to buy OEM at least install a genuine after market down the track.

Thats said i paid 950 for an aftermarket rns510 so i would personally pay. Relatively speaking VW have shapened the pencil.

Plus side
- your car tracks your position underground. Big boon in unfamiliar underground car parks. Very cool feature in tunnels
- If satellite is lost signal is picked up v quickly.
- Way larger screen

Negatives.
- Hmmm.. One portable unit i use zooms in on the next turn then zooms out automatically. Dont know if this is a negative but rns miyht not have some of the finer functions that portable units have

I vote get the integrated nav

[pologti18t]

The way it probably should be done can be seen in new Holden models. The ICE has a touch screen that uses an App/WiFi/Bluetooth to communicate to your smartphone for navigation. Navigation is displayed on the bigger screen but most of the grunt is provided by your smartphone.