Mk7 Golf - Australian Specifications and Prices (Base, Comfortline and Highline)

[Diesel_vert]

Yes, but why is there only a $1000 difference between auto and manual 90TSIs?

Metallic paint is included in the advertised driveaway price of the 90TSI manual, unlike the 90TSI DSG.

[GeckoZAO]

price for TSI/TDI

back in August, the price of TSI vs. TDI was like $2500 difference, and then in volksfest sale was $500 difference, and now its only $14 difference...so unfair
good time for those who wants to get TDI though.

[Transporter]

Why would that be unfair?
The M-B doesn't discriminate and charge the same price for their diesel models, in some, diesel is even cheaper than petrol.

[ziggyboy]

Bigger question is why they've done this? No interest on the TDI?

[Eaglehawk]

Bigger question is why they've done this? No interest on the TDI?

Next to the price of the 110TDI...

**Driveaway Prices (on vehicle(s) as shown) available on new stock vehicles only. Available at participating dealers for new stock vehicles sold and delivered between 1st November and 31st December 2013. While stocks last. Not available in conjunction with any other offer or with Volkswagen’s Corporate, Corporate Plus, Rental or Government assistance programs. Volkswagen Group Australia reserves the right to change or extend the offer.

[ziggyboy]

Next to the price of the 110TDI...

**Driveaway Prices (on vehicle(s) as shown) available on new stock vehicles only. Available at participating dealers for new stock vehicles sold and delivered between 1st November and 31st December 2013. While stocks last. Not available in conjunction with any other offer or with Volkswagen’s Corporate, Corporate Plus, Rental or Government assistance programs. Volkswagen Group Australia reserves the right to change or extend the offer.

I noticed that as well. Still curious why they would do this specifically to the TDI. In my experience manufacturers usually discount all models or at least the lower end ones. For example it would have been totally expected if they discounted all petrol models, and leave out TDI and GTI at full prices. What they've done is made the TSI and TDI prices identical, which is unusual, because buyers will likely just go for the TDI.

Another observation in threads is that the TDI fuel consumption is far from stellar compared to the new TSI engines, and considering diesel fuel and diesel maintenance being more expensive, it might actually be cheaper to run the TSI models. Only reason anyone would buy TDI is if you need the extra torque.

[GeckoZAO]

I noticed that as well. Still curious why they would do this specifically to the TDI. In my experience manufacturers usually discount all models or at least the lower end ones. For example it would have been totally expected if they discounted all petrol models, and leave out TDI and GTI at full prices. What they've done is made the TSI and TDI prices identical, which is unusual, because buyers will likely just go for the TDI.

Another observation in threads is that the TDI fuel consumption is far from stellar compared to the new TSI engines, and considering diesel fuel and diesel maintenance being more expensive, it might actually be cheaper to run the TSI models. Only reason anyone would buy TDI is if you need the extra torque.

when i bougt my tsi there was $500 difference only, and i still went for tsi.
1stly, i do only less than 15000km each year
2ndly, i've heard people say short trips arent good for diesel engines, pollutant filter in particular. (not sure if its true)
i find 250nm torque is quite enough though.

[Ryan_R]

Yes to benefit from TDI you need to be doing long trips, otherwise you are losing money on higher servicing costs.

[Brendan_A]

I don't think your correct about servicing costs Being higher on a tdi Ryan.

My tdi Jetta doesn't cost anymore then my 118tsi Golf to service. The only time it did cost more was when the diesel fuel filter was changed. Not sure how much the petrol filter is?

[Diesel_vert]

The overriding reason why the case for the 2.0L 110TDI does not stack up as well as the 1.4L 103TSI is mostly down to the latter's significant decrease in fuel consumption compared to the previous generation of petrol vs. diesel offerings.

I'll overlook the fact that we're not exactly comparing apples with apples (i.e. 2.0L vs 1.4L) for the moment. Bigger engines will consume more fuel, all things considered, so the 110TDI is at a disadvantage in this comparison (VWA are yet to offer the 1.6L 77TDI/81TDI here), but seeing how that's the only diesel offering here, we'll have to make do for now.

The smaller the difference in fuel consumption, the more distance you need to cover to offset the higher purchase price. These days, many vehicle manufacturers are sparing no expense in improving the fuel efficiency of petrol engines.

The price of premium unleaded fluctuates significantly in Sydney, but on average, tends to more expensive than diesel. The gap is bigger in Europe, which allows European motorists to recoup the purchase price difference more quickly.

Routine servicing costs between the TSI and TDI engines are more or less equivalent. The diesel doesn't require spark plugs, but needs to have the fuel filter replaced, so it evens out. Both engines have the same engine oil requirements (504.00/507.00), although you have the option of using 502.00 for petrol engines (which is sometimes cheaper, but not always). Both engines have the same service intervals (15 000 km or 12 months).

The TDI is fitted with a diesel particulate filter (DPF) which does not last forever, but I would expect it to last 200 000 km (give or take) before the thing is physically clogged up with ash in the Mk7 Golf (my feeling is that the DPF lasts longer with every new generational release, as manufacturers further refine the engine and emissions system).

All engines are driven by a cambelt (except for the 2.0 TSI engine in the GTI - and possibly the R, but yet to confirm).

Any significant differences in servicing costs will be determined by whether or not the engine is mated to a wet-clutch 6-speed DSG, which requires a fluid change every 60 000 km (unlike the dry-clutch 7-speed DSG, which does not require a fluid change).

[ziggyboy]

Interesting that no one has mentioned the power/torque difference between the two. Wouldn't you guys agree though that the TDI packs a meaner punch than the TSI?

[Ryan_R]

I don't think your correct about servicing costs Being higher on a tdi Ryan.

My tdi Jetta doesn't cost anymore then my 118tsi Golf to service. The only time it did cost more was when the diesel fuel filter was changed. Not sure how much the petrol filter is?

Not aware of a need to replace the petrol filter, but besides the DPF regen I was also thinking of the $1200+ services to change the DSG oil.

Interesting that no one has mentioned the power/torque difference between the two. Wouldn't you guys agree though that the TDI packs a meaner punch than the TSI?

hmm I've driven both (Mk6) and didn't find the higher torque as noticeable as you'd expect given the large difference between numbers - the main reason being that the diesel runs out of revs at ~5000rpm. And of course if you get Stage 1 on the 118TSI the torque jumps up to 320nm as well (and ~151kw).

[ziggyboy]

hmm I've driven both (Mk6) and didn't find the higher torque as noticeable as you'd expect given the large difference between numbers - the main reason being that the diesel runs out of revs at ~5000rpm. And of course if you get Stage 1 on the 118TSI the torque jumps up to 320nm as well (and ~151kw).

Remember that previously it was 118TSI vs 103TDI. Now it's 103TSI vs 110TDI. The TDI now doesn't only have more torque, it also has more power.

I have a 118TSI+DSG7 and I kinda regret getting it. I've had problems that are common to both the 118TSI engine and DSG7 gearbox, plus find the lag annoying. TDI drivers have told me that the TDI+DSG6's have less lag and more consistent torque. It's such a shame because VW's are nice cars to be in.

I'm wondering whether the 110TDI+DSG6 is the killer non-hot hatch combo... the Golf to buy that's not GTI level. Mix of good driving dynamics and reasonable reliability. I'm still skeptical with the TSI+DSG7 models...

[Ryan_R]

Good points. I can say I've driven a 103TSI and it is NOTHING like the 118TSI (either my old one or the MY12 models) as far as lag goes and how it changes gear. Pedal response felt a lot like the new Corolla actually.

[ziggyboy]

Good points. I can say I've driven a 103TSI and it is NOTHING like the 118TSI (either my old one or the MY12 models) as far as lag goes and how it changes gear. Pedal response felt a lot like the new Corolla actually.

What do you mean? You mean the 103TSI is better than the 118? Sorry couldn't really tell from how you worded your response LOL.