Stiff competition for the Mk7 Golf GTI - Second Edition

[Sharkie]

Is this before the dealer delivery etc charges?

It certainly is good value for money either way considering the brochure for the A250 sport already states the exact price as its starting point.

Base A250 is $54k drive away ..... I can get into a R for substantially less than that ..... And having now closely compared the specs of each can confirm the R is better specced ....

[pologti18t]

Base A250 is $54k drive away ..... I can get into a R for substantially less than that ..... And having now closely compared the specs of each can confirm the R is better specced ....

Why are you comparing a run out Golf R with a new to market (and not discounted) A250 on price?

Once the "new" R is released it will be considerable more expensive (RRP + ORC) than an A250 (RRP + ORC)

[Sharkie]

Why are you comparing a run out Golf R with a new to market (and not discounted) A250 on price?

Once the "new" R is released it will be considerable more expensive (RRP + ORC) than an A250 (RRP + ORC)

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

[oshuyi]

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

The thing is, with the new GTI, we don't even know whether it's going to de-tuned for the AUS market. All info so far is based from the oversea specs.

Also I'll be more than happy to buy a A250 over the current R anything day. It might may under power, but it has more torque and it should be MORE reliable

[pologti18t]

Actually, no .... R manual is RRP $49990 and much less with discounts on run out .... And it would be VERY unlikely to be any more expensive in mk7 form ..... In fact R dropped in price from Mk5 to Mk6 ..... Price will still be more or less the same for much less of a car in the A250 compared to the R.

I suppose we will have to wait and see.
I still believe MB's equipment levels and limited (and reasonably priced) options will affect how VW markets the next Golf here.

[alebonau]

its marketting no 1 isnt it never make the choosing easy ! merc would never bring out a stripped out a250 that goes up against a stripped out golf gti or golf R. as will vw not likely bring out a loaded golf gti that goes up agaisnt the a250.

both have to differentiate to give people a reason to choose between them

and I totally accept people will choose either for their own reasons...thats the whole idea

[cktsi]

Agree. If the cars were line ball, I would still be choosing the base spec Merc as you never get your money back on options. Considering the GTI is close to $40k, $10k is a lot of options to bring it up to the Merc and a lot of extra coin to lose. People just look at Redbook for value.

+1

That's a huge point and my beef with VW not providing a Highline Golf... options depreciate more than a higher spec vehicle with the features as standard. Totally agree.

I can't understand why some people are comparing a list price of a Golf R against a MB with on roads. That's not an apples vs apples comparison. I'd argue that you can compare list price vs list paricularly as some folks have actually put a deposit on this type of deal!! Look back through this thread and you will see two buyers who have negotiated list price as drive away AND also had free servicing thrown in.

Besides, you can't claim that there's less value in buying a specced up A250 just because it's a non VW.... just read the Mk6 forum's GTI vs R thread and you'll see lots of signatures of GTI owners who have specced up their cars. These GTI owners have made a conscious decision to spec up a GTI than buy an R without options such as sunroof and Nav.


Having said all that, as I stated at the start of this thread, it's too early to be running this poll as we simply don't know the final spec of the GTI. The only points we are making (and they are valid), is that unless VW sharpens the pencil, the GTI and R are both in for a tough time.

[Ryan_R]

Just whack a red T badge on, install an ECU tune, and say it is a Highline when you sell it

Agree with you though, my 118TSI is very well spec'ed

[Ryan_R]

What about...

[THE_EGG]

What about...

Vomited a little bit...
Probably not a bad car, but definately not for me.

[Ryan_R]

Yeah it's probably good, but something is not right about the looks - can't put my finger on it yet

[cktsi]

I think i can safely assume most people on here value a nice interior over a bit of performance or we'd all be chatting on the wrx or evo forums :-p

Given this assumption i would also assume most would not go for either the 86 or brz due to the low rent interior, soft top or not.

Oddly i think those weird headlights now look good on the soft top version and i like it! I dont like the coupe shape unless its in race livery where i think the distracting paint makes it look great.

[cktsi]

What about...

Oh i know what it is.... I like the new scuplted front bumper. It integrates a lot better with those weirdo headlights.

[clip]

brabus are going mental with the a250- already have a plug and play ecu upgrade that boosts it to 185kw, and that's just interim to keep the lads happy until they develop a proper remap

[OilBurna]

I think i'd rather get a good deal on the Golf R esp with the 1.5% finance at the moment. After looking at one yesterday the A250 is jsut too chintzy for me. If you think VW service costs are expensive wait to you see Mercedes. Otherwise might wait for an ex Merc Aus executive driven one in six months time or so.