Mk7 Golf R Discussion Thread

[cktsi]

Just a thought, the final power output of the new R and/or RS3 may rest on how VW want to respond to the AMG A45. Hopefully that is back on topic as I agree it was going off track

[AdamD]

am keen to know what the golf R mk7 will have as standard, the point is the mk6 can end up a bit silly in price with options and question is will the mk7 be the same

There is absolutely no way to tell until the prices and specifications are released for the Australian market by VWA. So you'll just have to hold tight.

[pologti18t]

How come when I go to the BMW and select price of 328i it comes to $72k? With no options.

You need about $11K of options to get what you want in a 328i

The M135i is the better comparison.

[DoggieHowser]

I always see a fair bit of discounting on BMWs and Minis especially with the options whereas I hardly seem to get much leeway with VWs.

[AdamD]

Guys, this thread is about Mk7 Golf R speculation. At this point in time, when the model has yet to be even previewed in Europe, we are a long way off having detailed specification and pricing available for the Australian model. Which means that discussion about bargaining with dealers, and detailed pricing comparisons with models currently on the market is off-topic.

If you'd like to discuss Golf R pricing comparisons in detail, with known figures, feel free to read through and contribute to the thread dedicated to this in the Mk6 section:
Golf R Specifications and Prices - 2nd Edition

But if you'd like to speculate about the Mk7 R's features, spec, performance etc, feel free to post here.

[anglo_dude]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the new GTI will have a 7 speed dry clutch, as per the Polo GTI:

27-09-12: Golf GTI shown at Paris Motor Show, on sale in Summer 2013.

2.0-litre turbo engine with 220PS, also available with 230PS performance pack, which also enhances handling and brakes and includes a limites slip diff. Either six-speed manual or seven-speed dry clutch DSG. Acceleration from 0-62mph takes 6.6 seconds and top speed is 155mph. Official economy is 47.1mpg on the combined cycle.

A variable ratio steering system means drivers get direct and immediate steering on country roads with no adverse effect on low speed manoeuvres and town driving. The steering wheel itself has a flat bottom. The cabin gets traditional tartan seat trim, along with a golf ball gearstick red ambient lighting. Outside the car gets the usual red grille stripe, as well as red brake calipers and smoked LED light clusters.

This was taken from HonestJohn.co.uk, which is a pretty good unbiased website.

220PS is about 162KW (230 is 169), so not a huge increase in power, but the 100kgs less in weight should mean 1-2/10ths off the 0-100 time.

I would expect to see the Rs coming in just around the 200KW, so as not to steal the thunder of the S3, but that should still be a lot of fun!

Cheers,

Anglo

[THE_EGG]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the new GTI will have a 7 speed dry clutch, as per the Polo GTI:

27-09-12: Golf GTI shown at Paris Motor Show, on sale in Summer 2013.

2.0-litre turbo engine with 220PS, also available with 230PS performance pack, which also enhances handling and brakes and includes a limites slip diff. Either six-speed manual or seven-speed dry clutch DSG. Acceleration from 0-62mph takes 6.6 seconds and top speed is 155mph. Official economy is 47.1mpg on the combined cycle.

A variable ratio steering system means drivers get direct and immediate steering on country roads with no adverse effect on low speed manoeuvres and town driving. The steering wheel itself has a flat bottom. The cabin gets traditional tartan seat trim, along with a golf ball gearstick red ambient lighting. Outside the car gets the usual red grille stripe, as well as red brake calipers and smoked LED light clusters.

This was taken from HonestJohn.co.uk, which is a pretty good unbiased website.

220PS is about 162KW (230 is 169), so not a huge increase in power, but the 100kgs less in weight should mean 1-2/10ths off the 0-100 time.

I would expect to see the Rs coming in just around the 200KW, so as not to steal the thunder of the S3, but that should still be a lot of fun!

Cheers,

Anglo

Do we know if it is a proper mechanical limited slip diff? or is it the electronically managed one which can be seen in the Scirocco etc?

The 'R' certainly looks tasty though. I wonder if the Scirocco will get an updated drivetrain once the mkVII range is fully released.

[AdamD]

Hmm, interesting, looks like the new GTI will have a 7 speed dry clutch, as per the Polo GTI

VW don't (currently) have a dry-clutch DSG capable of more than 250Nm; they do, however, have the (relatively) new DQ500 7-speed wet-clutch DSG, which is their high-torque application unit. At this stage I reckon it's more likely the GTI and R will get that gearbox, rather than VW go to the trouble of developing another new 7-speed DSG with high torque capabilities.

[Ryan_R]

Given the problems a lot of us have had I'd prefer if they didn't use a dry DSG box for any of their Mk7 cars

[cktsi]

Given the problems a lot of us have had I'd prefer if they didn't use a dry DSG box for any of their Mk7 cars

+1

I doubt they would use the dry clutch in light of worldwide issues with it. Pretty sure it would be the same as the wet clutch S tronic

[Mac135]

Personally id like to see the TTRS 2.5l 5 in the new R range - would likely keep the AMG a class and new 1m's in check plus give VW a point of difference in the next Golf Or Roc R.

Probably not likely though.......

[elephino]

Volkswagen R GmbH / Die Leidenschaft des Motorsports - weiterentwickelt

[oshuyi]

Volkswagen R GmbH / Die Leidenschaft des Motorsports - weiterentwickelt

2014 Volkswagen Golf R: icy unveiling for flagship hot-hatch | CarAdvice

It looks like it'll be detuned again

[Ryan_R]

Why don't they just sense the air temp and dynamically detune the engine only when it's extra hot. Surely Europe has hot days as well during summer? Nothing APR or Viezu or CC or the rest of them couldn't fix.

[Candyman]

We also have crap fuel compared to a lot of the Europe countries, apparently ....