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Why is 504 / 507 oil so readily available when it should not be used here?
my 2020 mk7.5 110tsi has a 502 / 505 sticker in the engine bay and my skoda rs245 has 504 / 507
That's quite interesting indeed. I suspect this is because the 1.4L engine is now only offered in markets with high sulphur fuel so no longer a case to factory fill with 504/507. The 1.4 TSI was replaced with a new 1.5L model in Europe back when the 7.5 came out but they had to keep the 1.4L model in markets with high sulphur content fuel because the particulate filter etc is not compatible with the fuel.
Can someone please translate the meaning of 502 / 505 suitable for 2020 Golf TSI.
What is the equivalent of 502 / 505 that one can buy in AU, from brands such as Penrite, Valvoline, etc, thanks.
Can someone please translate the meaning of 502 / 505 suitable for 2020 Golf TSI.
What is the equivalent of 502 / 505 that one can buy in AU, from brands such as Penrite, Valvoline, etc, thanks.
Most good high SAPS oil is 502/505 compliant. I used Nulon 0w-40 for years but have recently changed to Castrol Edge 0w-40 A3/B4. Penrite and Mobil1 stuff is good too. The best ones are also compliant with Mercedes Benz 229.5 and Porsche A40 so look out for those.
Can someone please translate the meaning of 502 / 505 suitable for 2020 Golf TSI.
What is the equivalent of 502 / 505 that one can buy in AU, from brands such as Penrite, Valvoline, etc, thanks.
Castrol A3/B4 5w 30 at any automotive store as long as it has APPROVED for VW on the label
Or just use Penrite Enviro+ 504/507 My TSI Polo has been running on it for 10 years without problems.
This thread is like going back 13 years in time. It's as if thousands of owners have never looked at their service manual and then one day from over the horizon a saviour rides in on a white horse to save us all.
carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums
I think I'll go with this one for my Golf TSI 110Kw 2020 ..
It is VW 502 00/505 00
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Yet Castrol doesn't even mention this oil as even the 2nd choice and nor does Penrite. What does your owners manual say?
I use 502.00 in my old dunger occasionally because It's often on sale for $15 if you know where to look but my car is 10 years out of warranty but in a 2020 model still under warranty? Why would you risk it? VW502.00 is a 1990s spec. lol
carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums
Yet Castrol doesn't even mention this oil as even the 2nd choice and nor does Penrite. What does your owners manual say?
I use 502.00 in my old dunger occasionally because It's often on sale for $15 if you know where to look but my car is 10 years out of warranty but in a 2020 model still under warranty? Why would you risk it? VW502.00 is a 1990s spec. lol
Both specs currently co-exist to suit different fuel sulphur contents in different markets. Again, 502 is not a "minimum" or "lesser" spec. 502 is the current VW high SAPS spec. 504 is the current low SAPS spec. Low SAPS does not last as long before going acidic when used with high sulphur fuel. For this reason, low SAPS oil is for some countries and high SAPS oil is for other countries depending on their fuel standards.
Oil companies generally offer just two main types of oil. Low and high SAPS. They are not "older" and "newer" and certainly not "minimum" and "better". High SAPS is VW 502, MB 229.5, BMW LL-01 and generally the one product covers all of these for any given viscosity. Low SAPS is VW 504, MB229.51, BMW LL-04 and again generally one product covers all of these for any given viscosity. They are all current oil specs. Note BMW and Merc clearly say do not use their low SAPS oil in petrol engines in Australia. Volkswagen do as well but they are more vague about the wording of it.
The person asking not only has the factory fill engine bay sticker say to use 502 but also like all the others, the owner's manual too.
You would think a person who supposedly knows so much wouldnt have to post 5 pages to know what oil to put in a vehicle when a read of the manual would tell you.
Ive owned 37 cars latterly 3 VW (happily running on 504/507 for last 10 years) in last 64 years and not had any trouble lubricating them
You would think a person who supposedly knows so much wouldnt have to post 5 pages to know what oil to put in a vehicle when a read of the manual would tell you.
Ive owned 37 cars latterly 3 VW (happily running on 504/507 for last 10 years) in last 64 years and not had any trouble lubricating them
Stop trolling the thread if you don't have anything constructive to add. Your own manual tells you to run 502 and not 504 in this country. I've even told you which paragraphs state it and yet you still keep regurgitating "read the manual" implying that it supports your view when in fact, it does the very opposite, which is the very reason why I started this thread.
I have already responded to you saying the same thing before. I never said running one oil or the other will cause some sort of chaotic "problem" so your repeating of what you've used without "problems" is not relative to this thread. It is obvious that you have nothing constructive to say so please keep this thread for discussion relevant to the topic which is discussion surrounding the owners manual stating not to use 504/507 in countries without EN 228 compliant fuel. Thanks.
The person asking not only has the factory fill engine bay sticker say to use 502 but also like all the others, the owner's manual too.
Really? I'd love to see a photo of this sticker in the engine bay.
You get your car serviced at the dealer. They use 504.00/507.00
You look up any mainstream lubrication database: 504/507 is their "Best Choice" oil.
You do UOA at 15,000km on 504/507 and there are no red flags for raised acid levels (or any other form of oil degradation unless the engine is crapping itself due to poor VW parts).
I actually think you are misreading a very badly designed table.
BTW: You still haven't stated what VW Tech said when you contacted them.
Here's the thing. Even if the dealers are wrong in what they think you should pour into the engine, if the dealers think that 504/507 is the correct oil for a vehicle and there is a warranty issue, you then have to go through the process of re-educating them while fighting a warranty claim. Given how many engine failures VWs get through poor design and short R&D time frames do you really want to have to add that extra layer of heartache when you are trying to get piston (or engine) replaced or a new head because the timing chain tensioner pooped its pants?
Hillbilly and I have a long history of disagreeing with each other but in this case I'm in his camp.
carandimage The place where Off-Topic is On-Topic I used to think I was anal-retentive until I started getting involved in car forums
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