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  • #16
    Originally posted by 65F100 View Post
    If it leaks again I am pretty sure it is illegal for them to regas the system according to ARC until they find/repair a leak.
    I didn't know that either, but it make sense. The gas in A/C units is not a bad as it was in the Freon days but I am sure the Environment people would lot like it leaking out.

    I know when a house A/C is worked on they have to (if there is a danger of leak) remove and store the gas first.
    The Car: MY20 Black Golf R Final Edition, 5 Door, Driver assistance package, Sun Roof.

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    • #17
      After Reading Post #13 I just did some legislation searching and found the following legislation extract on the Australian Refrigeration Council (Australian Government). There is also a clear downloadable fact sheet outlawing the practice of topping up.
      In fact it a $313,000 fine for companies who return a system to service without fixing or knowing there is a leak.

      10.3 Users are advised that persons who service refrigeration and air conditioning
      equipment are required by legislation to observe this code of practice and not to “top
      up” systems known to be leaking or to service equipment unless it can be returned into
      service in a leak free condition.
      The Car: MY20 Black Golf R Final Edition, 5 Door, Driver assistance package, Sun Roof.

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      • #18
        But, But it hasn't got a leak that they will admit to!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
          But, But it hasn't got a leak that they will admit to!
          That is correct, and is obviously why they are trying so hard not to find one. But there is one logic, common sense and the laws of logic say so. I dont have a VU light to check but its obvious the A/C is not a cold and fast to start up as it was a week ago.

          I have a friend who is a greeny nut job. She found out that the car can be taken to the same place you take it if it gets defected for noise. They will do a leak test and if a leak is found will seek an explanation for the A/C licence holder as to why it was put back in service with a leak.

          Also this morning I had a chat to an auto electrician/ A/C guy. He said with the tools available today he could find a leak in under a day.

          The simple truth about all of this is they never checked for a leak they just topped the system up (which is illegal) charged me $157 and told me to come back in 5000klms. The dash cam showed the bonnet up for a total of round 30 min. It apparently takes a min of 45 to completely evacuate the system and recharge from scratch.
          The Car: MY20 Black Golf R Final Edition, 5 Door, Driver assistance package, Sun Roof.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ozmale View Post
            After Reading Post #13 I just did some legislation searching and found the following legislation extract on the Australian Refrigeration Council (Australian Government). There is also a clear downloadable fact sheet outlawing the practice of topping up.
            In fact it a $313,000 fine for companies who return a system to service without fixing or knowing there is a leak.

            10.3 Users are advised that persons who service refrigeration and air conditioning
            equipment are required by legislation to observe this code of practice and not to “top
            up” systems known to be leaking or to service equipment unless it can be returned into
            service in a leak free condition.
            Seems like it is time to talk to whoever is in charge of enforcing this legislation. Once they get involved I'll bet the dealer will be a LOT more responsive to your a/c problem.
            2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).

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            • #21
              Was the dealer licenced to do refrigeration? I am electrical trade and did do refrigeration until the laws changed and it is now illegal unless you are qualified.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by syncro View Post
                Was the dealer licenced to do refrigeration? I am electrical trade and did do refrigeration until the laws changed and it is now illegal unless you are qualified.
                Yes, I found that out as well.

                Am giving it a couple more days for the leak to fully appear in the die. Then will be going back to VW Australia with a series of difficult questions. Including the licence number of the A/C tech who did the work.
                The Car: MY20 Black Golf R Final Edition, 5 Door, Driver assistance package, Sun Roof.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ozmale View Post
                  The dash cam showed the bonnet up for a total of round 30 min. It apparently takes a min of 45 to completely evacuate the system and recharge from scratch.
                  I would be a bit careful there before trotting out dash cam footage. Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning. Certainly the dealer I am familiar with is absolute on no dash cams while the vehicle is in their workshop.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
                    I would be a bit careful there before trotting out dash cam footage. Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning. Certainly the dealer I am familiar with is absolute on no dash cams while the vehicle is in their workshop.
                    I think that's an urban myth. Plenty TV shows do it. Current affair etc.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
                      I would be a bit careful there before trotting out dash cam footage. Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning. Certainly the dealer I am familiar with is absolute on no dash cams while the vehicle is in their workshop.
                      Maybe so, but is that more because they don't want you to record any incompetent work and/or over-enthusiastic "test drives", rather than the official reason of protecting the privacy of their employees ?
                      2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
                        I would be a bit careful there before trotting out dash cam footage. Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning. Certainly the dealer I am familiar with is absolute on no dash cams while the vehicle is in their workshop.
                        "Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning."

                        This is NOT so if recording a crime. This is Australia NOT the USA. There are examples of this every night on the NEWS. One of the significant reasons for the royal commission into Aged care is the number of videos of the elderly being mistreated.
                        The Car: MY20 Black Golf R Final Edition, 5 Door, Driver assistance package, Sun Roof.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ozmale View Post
                          "Some dealers advise owners to turn them off or they will, it is illegal to record without a warning."

                          This is NOT so if recording a crime. This is Australia NOT the USA. There are examples of this every night on the NEWS. One of the significant reasons for the royal commission into Aged care is the number of videos of the elderly being mistreated.
                          Where is the crime being committed?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Ozsko View Post
                            Where is the crime being committed?
                            Owner being ripped off.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ozmale View Post
                              I dont have a VU light to check but its obvious the A/C is not a cold and fast to start up as it was a week ago.
                              Do you have a thermometer? Check the temperature of air coming out the vent when AC is on.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by syncro View Post
                                Owner being ripped off.
                                Half of Australia would be in jail if that was the case.

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