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You can have the camera and the tails physically installed but not coded, and although the camera won't work, the tails will and the car will be A-OK to drive.
That is fantastic. Now just have to talk to Matt about whether to get it installed locally and have Tigger (and of course will be offered something for his help) or just wait and have MRL do it and not bother Tigger. My local service centre might not have the experience but if anything goes wrong they'll have to cover it. MRL has the experience but was vague on the price and may add traveling charges.
Instructions for them to follow are essential, and because of the trim to be removed for the RVC install, they'll need to be careful not to scratch parts or do a ham-fisted job. So care and quality are key. If you've got a good relationship with your service manager and are confident that they'll treat your car with respect (as you tend to find more often in regional dealerships), then your local should be fine, as long as you ply them with good instructions.
A good point about instructions. I had them do the RNS510 install and instead of putting the gps box behind the RNS as some very good instructions on forums suggested it was placed on top of the front dash. My dash mat hides most of it but the wire is still visible. The probably just followed VW official install instructions.
The checksum cannot be spoofed/faked/concealed with current technology, so you should consider any aftermarket tune to be discoverable.
Possibility of consequences, and if that's unacceptable to you, then perhaps you should wait until the car is out of warranty.
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Will they be pissed off that I've put a tune on? On a service will any updates put the tune back to stock?
I've got just under a year left on my warranty I think. Hard to be sure because it was ex demo the warranty started when the dealership registered the car, not when I bought it. I'm usually a cautious person and hold warranty as something very important. But its getting in the way of everything I want to do.
I had planned on waiting until after the warranty had run out before getting a tune but this offer fell into our lap and to delay it that length of time would pobably void the offer.
Either way there is a risk. Aaaaahhhh now I have doubts Perhaps its because I keep reading that people are all selling their VW before the warranty runs out as they don't believe VW is reliable anymore.
Of course when Damien (Tigger73) comes by and you get a ride in his stage 2+ Tiguan, there's just no way you'll ever want to put off tuning.
Oh I know I'd love the tune. I didn't know I was a hoon until I went from my Hyundi Getz to the Golf. Golf has power! And I'm already loving the DSG tune. Give it another year after the tune and I'll probably be eager for a stage 2 lol. Want to turn my TDI into a GTD.
LC runs?
MY17 Arteon | 206TSI R-Line | Manganese Grey Metallic | Front window tint 35% | Stage 1: ECU Racing Line tune, DSG APR tune, R600 intake bundle |
Either way there is a risk. Aaaaahhhh now I have doubts Perhaps its because I keep reading that people are all selling their VW before the warranty runs out as they don't believe VW is reliable anymore.
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LC runs?
The majority of VWs have no issues at all. This is particularly the case for the diesel/DQ250 DSG combination in your vehicle. Tigger and Adam will no doubt repeat this. If the tune is inevitable, than roll with it now and enjoy it.
LC = launch control.
Oh, and a belated welcome.
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That is fantastic. Now just have to talk to Matt about whether to get it installed locally and have Tigger (and of course will be offered something for his help) or just wait and have MRL do it and not bother Tigger. My local service centre might not have the experience but if anything goes wrong they'll have to cover it. MRL has the experience but was vague on the price and may add traveling charges.
Honestly it takes longer to unpack/boot up the laptop than it does to change the setting. But if you're getting MRL to do service work and/or other work of course he could do it too.
**** **** **** **** **** **** **** ****.
Will they be pissed off that I've put a tune on? On a service will any updates put the tune back to stock?
I've got just under a year left on my warranty I think. Hard to be sure because it was ex demo the warranty started when the dealership registered the car, not when I bought it. I'm usually a cautious person and hold warranty as something very important. But its getting in the way of everything I want to do.
I had planned on waiting until after the warranty had run out before getting a tune but this offer fell into our lap and to delay it that length of time would pobably void the offer.
Either way there is a risk. Aaaaahhhh now I have doubts Perhaps its because I keep reading that people are all selling their VW before the warranty runs out as they don't believe VW is reliable anymore.
The old dilemma of if/when to tune. Basically this is the way I see it:
1) You change your cars over often and definitely prior to warranty expiring/60k major service and/or before the tyres/brakes wear out. You can probably afford to fix the car should you break it. Go for it!!!!
2) You keep your car 3-5 years and change it over reasonably regularly and you want to tune it then you're probably best off tuning it relatively early in it's life and enjoying it for the maximum amount of time. If you wait until your warranty is over then you'll only have the tune on for a (relatively) short time. If something breaks you'll be up for the repairs anyway... so you may as well have put the tune on earlier and enjoy it for longer
3) If you plan to keep the car longer term (10 years/200,000km) then for sure you can wait until the warranty expires. You'll still have quite a few years of enjoyment/value out of the tune and it will probably prolong the life of the car by not tuning it too early in it's life. If you're planning on keeping it long term I'd definitely recommend minor service intervals (oil/filter change every 7,500km) and you'll still be up for the repair bill should you break it
The GTD runs the same 6 speed DSG that's in your car (so do Golf R and GTI) so I wouldn't be too worried about tuning it up to GTD levels of power/torque as it will certainly be within the limits of the transmission to cope with.
Oh I know I'd love the tune. I didn't know I was a hoon until I went from my Hyundi Getz to the Golf. Golf has power! And I'm already loving the DSG tune. Give it another year after the tune and I'll probably be eager for a stage 2 lol. Want to turn my TDI into a GTD.
You can never have enough power... and the torque from the diesel engines is certainly enjoyable.
The diesels are less tuneable as they have restrictive exhausts (DPF) to catch all the soot. Unfortunately it's not legal to remove these so stage 1 is about where it's at for diesels. Though you can still get some nice power gains and some tasty amounts of torque too.
I would be more concerned about going with a tried and trusted tuning company.... or one that will back their tunes should anything untoward happen to your engine (touch wood). 99% of people that get their cars tuned don't have a problem. It's the 1% of cases when things don't go as planned and how the tuning company handles it that can make all the difference.
Launch Control is only available in the Golf GTD, GTI, R and Tiguan . Just in case you need to get home from the shops in a hurry and you're lined up next to another car at the traffic lights. Has to be done once in your life, though will probably void your warranty too....
Honestly it takes longer to unpack/boot up the laptop than it does to change the setting. But if you're getting MRL to do service work and/or other work of course he could do it too.
Well I guess its back to hitting the phone for some quotes.
The old dilemma of if/when to tune. Basically this is the way I see it:
1) You change your cars over often and definitely prior to warranty expiring/60k major service and/or before the tyres/brakes wear out. You can probably afford to fix the car should you break it. Go for it!!!!
2) You keep your car 3-5 years and change it over reasonably regularly and you want to tune it then you're probably best off tuning it relatively early in it's life and enjoying it for the maximum amount of time. If you wait until your warranty is over then you'll only have the tune on for a (relatively) short time. If something breaks you'll be up for the repairs anyway... so you may as well have put the tune on earlier and enjoy it for longer
3) If you plan to keep the car longer term (10 years/200,000km) then for sure you can wait until the warranty expires. You'll still have quite a few years of enjoyment/value out of the tune and it will probably prolong the life of the car by not tuning it too early in it's life. If you're planning on keeping it long term I'd definitely recommend minor service intervals (oil/filter change every 7,500km) and you'll still be up for the repair bill should you break it
Hm. Well 1. is unlikely. We live on one wage and I can't afford spend that sort of money each time in such a short period.
2. is the most likely based on my history with the Getz. I had claimed I would keep it until I ran it into the ground but it had some issues that bothered me so I had it for about 6 years.
3. I what I like to think I'll do after putting so much effort, love and $ into the car.
Calling it a GTD is a little joke Matt and I have.
The diesels are less tuneable as they have restrictive exhausts (DPF) to catch all the soot. Unfortunately it's not legal to remove these so stage 1 is about where it's at for diesels.
I would be more concerned about going with a tried and trusted tuning company.... or one that will back their tunes should anything untoward happen to your engine (touch wood). 99% of people that get their cars tuned don't have a problem. It's the 1% of cases when things don't go as planned and how the tuning company handles it that can make all the difference.
I feel pretty good about who we are using. The local factor and their generous offer made it an offer I couldn't refuse.
Looks like it will be scheduled in for some time this week.
Launch Control is only available in the Golf GTD, GTI, R and Tiguan . Just in case you need to get home from the shops in a hurry and you're lined up next to another car at the traffic lights. Has to be done once in your life, though will probably void your warranty too....
Well my golf isn't a GTD so no launch control for me. But I do like putting it into sport mode now at a set of lights. Which is as close as I'll get.
You'll have to show me the real deal.
MY17 Arteon | 206TSI R-Line | Manganese Grey Metallic | Front window tint 35% | Stage 1: ECU Racing Line tune, DSG APR tune, R600 intake bundle |
Okay having some trouble with my flickr account. I can't upload the pics because my yahoo user details was cancelled cause I didn't use it I forgot it was linked to flickr.
Some decent gains right through the rev range. Good thing is that it looks just as smooth as the stock tune so it should drive nicely just with a bit more urge.
A 25% increase everywhere is decent gains which should be quite noticeable on the road.
Players involved:
Paul Razum Automotive/Razztech Motorsports (installer & owner of Mainline Dyno – Mount Gambier, SA)
AP Tuning (seller of tuning software)
RD Technik (owner of software)
I wanted some extra power and fuel economy on my 2012 Diesel Golf mk6 103TDI Comfortline Bluemotion.
First the DSG was tuned by itself. Showed no changes in power or torque on the dyno but I have felt a difference in the car while driving it with the stock ECU.
It feels more urgent during gearing using adaptive shift and automatic.
Feels faster gearing up and accelerating at low speeds, and overtaking at higher speeds. Using automatic drive and sport mode.
My new favourite thing is putting my foot down on the accelerator when coming out of a roundabout and zooming off .
I noticed a small decrease in the litres/100km by about .4 litres/100km but not noticing a difference in the overall range between refills (only 2 full tanks before ECU tune).
After a month with just the DSG tune, the RD Technik ECU tune was then installed. ECU had to be taken out and the tune done on the bench. Tune was written by RD Technik in Italy.
Figures:
Golf quoted: 103kw and 310nm
Average litres per 100km: 5.4 litres (my daily driving)
Golf real world: 77kw and 355nm
Average litres per 100km: 5.0 litres
Golf tuned: 100.1kw and 459nm
Average litres per 100km: 4.0 litres
25-30% increase across the curve.
My golf now feels like a little rocket. Feel and torque especially felt good for low speed boosting from traffic lights and roundabouts. Most noticeably felt in sport mode, but drive also feels livelier now.
Overtaking is even quicker, feels smoother and safer no matter what speed you are going at.
It’s now an energetic puppy that’s always ready to go and run anywhere and full speed if you let it.
Service from all players was good. A few small delays in getting the tools to do the bench ECU tune but unlikely to happen again. Paul Razum went above and beyond in the time and care he spent on the car. AP Tuning have been helpful and I look forward to seeing the results and review later on when the RDT Shift Plus is installed. RD Technik have provided an excellent stage 1 tune and I am impressed with the results.
Had its first full tank of diesel on Monday 8/9/14 and after a bit of driving its range + km done showed a total of 1300km on Wednesday 10/9/14. Very impressive. Most I’ve ever seen has been 1200km during long distance driving.
Perhaps its because I keep reading that people are all selling their VW before the warranty runs out as they don't believe VW is reliable anymore.
. Just in case you need to get home from the shops in a hurry and you're lined up next to another car at the traffic lights. Has to be done once in your life, though will probably void your warranty too.... 
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