changed from golf R to volvo v40

[alebonau]

had zero issue with the dag on my mk6 gti for the 3 years owned it.

Volvo's implementation of the DSG was highly unsatisfying to drive. Never switching up or down in manual mode when you wanted, much less in auto mode.

I could never go back to old skool torque converters which sap any low end torque from most engines. That said I hear the 8 speeders in BMWs are quite usable.

As for VW DSGs, this is our sixth DSG in the family. So far only one has had a catastrophic failure (my dad's Touran 1.4 turbocharged) which was replaced under warranty. The rest (Golf 6 77TSI, Golf 5 GTI, Tiguan 155TSI and a Golf 7 1.4 Sports) have been fine.

not sure could go back to a slush box with torque converter....as am not sure could ever go back to a manual box either.

the golf gti had me as a convert to dag and dual clutch boxes. love the 7 speed dct on the merc.

ps volvo prob had access to the dual clutch from the ford focus. not sure why they didn't go for it rather than the slush box as the fords is pretty good in my opinion

[Transporter]

Yes it was recorded and it was fixed at vws cost
Yes other manufacturers are bringing out dsg gear boxes eg nissan gtr
They don't have any problems
I'm just saying vws dsg is unreliable in my experience

Did the car leave you stranded on the road? If not, then I wouldn't call the car that needed the gearbox repair at 160,000km unreliable.

I'm sorry, you're wrong, many car manufacturers have problems with their transmissions... and not just with the transmissions. I really wish you that the Volvo will be as reliable as the VW was for you.

[lavna]

Don't get me wrong I loved the dsg as well it was fantastic in the golf R
I even think it is better than the merc 7 speed the dsg changed a lot better
I was just worried about the reliability
I hope it is a good change to the volvo
Will keep you all posted

[Mountainman]

Thanks for your contribution Mountainman, I assume you have one with 250K on it, any problems or great experiences???

I was only making the point that 45K is not long term use and certainly not enough distance to judge long term reliability. Never owned a dsg myself but the mechatronics & clutch pack replacements that my brother's 2009 Jetta needed in its 130K life and the number of times it stranded him or his wife because the dsg left them sitting in the middle of the road doing nothing did not boost my confidence in them. Yes, VW always fixed it under warranty but would never acknowledge the danger it used to put them in being stranded in the middle of an intersection with a no-go car. He now drives a manual Camry.........

[AdamD]

I was only making the point that 45K is not long term use and certainly not enough distance to judge long term reliability.

Long-term inherently refers to time, not distance, and whilst you might not consider 45,000km (or 90,000, or 180,000km across 3 cars) to constitute long-term as a measurement of distance, I sure do. I've had my GTI for 3 1/2 years and it's just ticked over 25,000; I expect it'll be close to 40,000 by the time I sell it @ 5 years. And that period of reliable ownership (touchwood) definitely constitutes 'long term' to me (and, I suspect, many other members besides who are equally interested in reliability).

[DonJuan]

I was only making the point that 45K is not long term use and certainly not enough distance to judge long term reliability. Never owned a dsg myself but the mechatronics & clutch pack replacements that my brother's 2009 Jetta needed in its 130K life and the number of times it stranded him or his wife because the dsg left them sitting in the middle of the road doing nothing did not boost my confidence in them. Yes, VW always fixed it under warranty but would never acknowledge the danger it used to put them in being stranded in the middle of an intersection with a no-go car. He now drives a manual Camry.........

Agree 45K miught not be much but the 3 years I had the Pirelli with 90K including track work, daily commutes on the M1 and cruises gave the DSG a thorough working over. Even tuned the DSG for the last 15K of that time to give it more stress and hard work. I don't think they got the 7-speed right but the 6-speed wet DSG worked a treat for me in all conditions.

I guess it's like anything, you get a lemon amongst lots of success stories but unfortunately you don't have people starting forum threads title "my dsg is awesome and never fails"...

[lavna]

My sisters Audi a3 needed new dsg
Friends Vw van needed new dsg
My golf needed new dsg
Friends golf new mechatronic
Can't be a little problem

[Ezza01]

This is why I got a manual..lol

[SilvrFoxX]

Agree 45K miught not be much but the 3 years I had the Pirelli with 90K including track work, daily commutes on the M1 and cruises gave the DSG a thorough working over. Even tuned the DSG for the last 15K of that time to give it more stress and hard work. I don't think they got the 7-speed right but the 6-speed wet DSG worked a treat for me in all conditions.

I guess it's like anything, you get a lemon amongst lots of success stories but unfortunately you don't have people starting forum threads title "my dsg is awesome and never fails"...

Have to agree , yet to hear anyone with an R with the 6 speed complain of any issues, but I think I will start a thread called "my dsg is awesome and never fails"... now..

[chylld]

Agree. To me this thread is like someone finding a fault with Apple earphones, so they claim all earphones are faulty and that's why they now use full-sized headphones. Very short-sighted

I test drove a Volvo C30 T5 once. The steering rack was so slow it nearly redefined the word "understeer"

[Candyman]

Have to agree , yet to hear anyone with an R with the 6 speed complain of any issues, but I think I will start a thread called "my dsg is awesome and never fails"... now..

You know that my mech unit got replaced due to the infamous false neutral, 3 months after purchase.

From memory, quite a few new R's had false neutrals but most just ignored the issue.

Infrequent but alarming when it happens.

Other than that, typical DSG misbehaviour (same as my GTI used to) but nothing that concerns me.

I'd still buy another DSR equipped vehicle, even with those faults.

As for the Volvo, no, thanks, rightly or wrongly, it still drives like a Volvo and not what I like in a car

[Candyman]

This is why I got a manual..lol

No balls ?

Seriously, if that is why you got a manual, you should not have bought a Golf.

[SilvrFoxX]

You know that my mech unit got replaced due to the infamous false neutral, 3 months after purchase.

From memory, quite a few new R's had false neutrals but most just ignored the issue.

Infrequent but alarming when it happens.

Other than that, typical DSG misbehaviour (same as my GTI used to) but nothing that concerns me.

I'd still buy another DSR equipped vehicle, even with those faults.

As for the Volvo, no, thanks, rightly or wrongly, it still drives like a Volvo and not what I like in a car

If I remember correctly you had it changed on the concern that it was presenting false neutrals rather than it was.. I had a few quibbles when I first got mine but I blame my learning to drive a DSG rather than the unit itself..

Anyway how the hell are you CM.. back in the big smoke or still hiding out with the hippies

[Candyman]

No mate, I got the mech in the GTI replaced bfore we sold it, as you say, not because it had false neutral problems as such but knew it would help resale (mind you, it did misbehave plenty of times but I put up with it as I loved the DSG and what it offers)

The R however, did indeed have multiple false neutrals. One was almost the cause of me getting t-boned by a truck. Dealer didn't hesitate getting it replaced.

Doing good up here. The R rarely leaves the carpark to be honest. Loving the lifestyle, the weather and the people. Much more relaxed lifestyle and lower COL (better roads too with less traffic).

[mfl]

Although not strictly DSG related, what I have found is what got me more offside was the general attitude of the dealers with my warranty issues, the issues were self-evident (ac not working, turbo leaking oil, water pump leaking and inlet manifold ) but every warranty issue was a fight and the problem was never a problem when first reported.