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    Just wondering if it's something that needs changing or replacing because sometimes when I accelerate (little steeper than usual) at one stage there is a weird sound comes from the front of the car that sounds like a can of paint with the ball inside it being shaken.

    Then when you slow down and DSG drops to the 2nd gear and then you accelerate a little shudder comes on, feels like wheels are skidding but they're actually not.

    Not sure if it's normal but it does sounds really weird. It doesn't happen all the time though.
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    The noise you are hearing.....the 7 speed DSG used in these models is actually quite noisy when it changes gears. If you have the window down you can very easily hear it clicking (metallic clicking sound) when it changes gears. Ive driven several of the 7 speed DSG's (brand new cars) over the past few months and all of them made this sound. Is this the sound you are hearing?

    As for the shuddering - there is a thread on here which is all about the DSG shuddering on the 7 speeds. Getting the clutches changed seems to fix the issue.

    Here is the link to the DSG shudder thread > http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...ues-45873.html
    Last edited by Lucas_R; 27-07-2012, 06:10 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
      The noise you are hearing.....the 7 speed DSG used in these models is actually quite noisy when it changes gears. If you have the window dwn you can very easily hear it clicking (metallic clicking sound) when it changes gears. Ive driven several of the 7 speed DSG's (brand new cars) over the past few months and all of them made this sound. Is this the sound you are hearing?

      As for the shuddering - there is a thread on here which is all about the DSG shuddering on the 7 speeds. Getting the clutches changed seems to fix the issue.

      Here is the link to the DSG shudder thread > http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...ues-45873.html
      Thanks, the noise is like someone is shaking aluminium can with a metal ball inside it... not sure if you know what I mean...
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      • #4
        Hi dieterbohlen (best user name ever btw)

        Take it to the dealer and drive around with the head mechanic to demonstrate the sound.
        I have done the same as I had all sorts of weird noises (clunck, shutter, pinging). I have over the course of 1 year replaced the waterpump, clutchpack, mechatronik and a new gearbox (all under warranty). The dealer was actually quite keen to get all my problems sorted. I assume its good money for them when they recharge VAG for the warranty work. The car is currently in the shop for a not engaging park brake when in "P", the pinging noise when accelerating and rough idle at startup.

        Again, if you need something checked out and fixed the dealer is you best bet. And yes the 7speed is quite noisy when changing gears.

        Cheers,
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        • #5
          Originally posted by dieterbohlen View Post
          Just wondering if it's something that needs changing or replacing because sometimes when I accelerate (little steeper than usual) at one stage there is a weird sound comes from the front of the car that sounds like a can of paint with the ball inside it being shaken.

          Then when you slow down and DSG drops to the 2nd gear and then you accelerate a little shudder comes on, feels like wheels are skidding but they're actually not.

          Not sure if it's normal but it does sounds really weird. It doesn't happen all the time though.
          Lucas_R has pointed you to the correct thread about the shudder.

          With the rattling sound, is this like a constant "tick tick tick" for a few seconds? Also, do you hear this with the windows up? Next time it happens, could you check your rear view mirror to see if your car is belching fumes?

          The DQ200 DSG is noisy, but you shouldn't really be able to hear much with the windows up.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by cktsi View Post
            Lucas_R has pointed you to the correct thread about the shudder.

            With the rattling sound, is this like a constant "tick tick tick" for a few seconds? Also, do you hear this with the windows up? Next time it happens, could you check your rear view mirror to see if your car is belching fumes?

            The DQ200 DSG is noisy, but you shouldn't really be able to hear much with the windows up.
            Yes I drive with windows up and can hear it clearly inside the car however there are no fumes.
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            • #7
              Could also be the wastegate rattling. Is the noise around 2-3000RPM?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by cktsi View Post
                Lucas_R has pointed you to the correct thread about the shudder.

                With the rattling sound, is this like a constant "tick tick tick" for a few seconds? Also, do you hear this with the windows up? Next time it happens, could you check your rear view mirror to see if your car is belching fumes?

                The DQ200 DSG is noisy, but you shouldn't really be able to hear much with the windows up.
                Appologies for hijacking the thread, but I also have this on occassions and on one occassion noticed a screen of smoke left at the intersection.The dealer diagnosed it as inner right guard rattling 'lol'. Haven't heard it since (2 mths), but it did only happen occassionally. Can you please shed some light on this cktsi
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                • #9
                  Tick tick tick... Exactly as you describe it (ball bearings inside a can or nail polish - heck I am girl) I only hear it when I am accelerating hard when already doing 90+ Kim's and want to over take. I have been told it is normal..... Still freaks me out when I hear it .
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fillmore View Post
                    Appologies for hijacking the thread, but I also have this on occassions and on one occassion noticed a screen of smoke left at the intersection.The dealer diagnosed it as inner right guard rattling 'lol'. Haven't heard it since (2 mths), but it did only happen occassionally. Can you please shed some light on this cktsi
                    Well, this is your thread!! If it is a rattling sound with no regular rhythmn / beat, I don't know what the cause is. What about Snail Style's question on whether it happens 2k-3k rpm's ?

                    If it is a regular tick tick sound followed by smoke, someone in the "shudder thread" mentioned that a dealer stating the cause as a mechatronics issue. I've had my mechatronics replaced & haven't experience it since then... so there could be a correlation.

                    It is hard to replicate unfortunately right in front of the dealer, and they normally don't do anything unless you can.

                    However, the shudder should be easier to replicate. Often if you are crawling forward & turn your steering wheel full lock you can induce the shudder.

                    You can try to replicate the tick tick tick + plume of smoke by driving up a really steep hill in 5th gear. It doesn't always replicate, but that was the most common situation when that issue presented itself.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks cktsi. On the occasions I have heard the rattle it has been accelerating from a standing or rolling start. Makes me back off and look for flashing lights, etc. Will try as you said up a steep hill and hassle the dealer again.
                      Have the shudder as well but haven’t noticed it in sequence to this. Strangely it is more noticeable since the 37G7 campaign as I am experiencing more 2nd gear starts.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fillmore View Post
                        Thanks cktsi. On the occasions I have heard the rattle it has been accelerating from a standing or rolling start. Makes me back off and look for flashing lights, etc. Will try as you said up a steep hill and hassle the dealer again.
                        Have the shudder as well but haven’t noticed it in sequence to this. Strangely it is more noticeable since the 37G7 campaign as I am experiencing more 2nd gear starts.
                        This sounds bad. Are you sure it's not detonation (pinging)? This is exactly what it sounds like. Like balls being shaken in a can. If that's what it is the engine may not last much longer if it keeps up.

                        Could be a bad batch of fuel?
                        Are you running 98octane?
                        Is it worse on hotter days? (maybe hard to find a hot day as it's winter now )

                        I'd get it checked out ASAP.
                        Can't believe others say they get It too because if it's pinging that is REALLY bad for the engine
                        Last edited by moniker; 01-08-2012, 11:31 PM.

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                        • #13
                          i always have this tick tick tick sound non stop when i have my window down. If you go fast, i think more than 40km, obviously i can't hear it due to road noise and other cars on the road. BUT if i am in a shopping center car park, driving around looking for a spot. loud and clear ... tick tick tick tick tick non stop ....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cktsi View Post
                            With the rattling sound, is this like a constant "tick tick tick" for a few seconds? Also, do you hear this with the windows up? Next time it happens, could you check your rear view mirror to see if your car is belching fumes?
                            I get exactly this behaviour from my 118TSI. Usually after the engine has warmed up, and when I give it a little acceleration in DSG Drive mode. It started happening after about 15,000 km, and at 33,000 km it happens about once every 100km. I have only ever used 98 octane fuel, and 99% of it is BP Ultimate. Serviced every 10,000 km since new.

                            A brief sound like a paint can being rattled, accompanied by a cloud of smoke in my rear view mirror. I've seen it described on other threads, too.

                            I'd love to know what it is, and whether it needs fixing while I'm still under warranty.

                            I also have the clutch shudder, but I think that's a separate issue.
                            Last edited by Sentinel; 02-08-2012, 03:44 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rockDAhouse View Post
                              i always have this tick tick tick sound non stop when i have my window down. If you go fast, i think more than 40km, obviously i can't hear it due to road noise and other cars on the road. BUT if i am in a shopping center car park, driving around looking for a spot. loud and clear ... tick tick tick tick tick non stop ....
                              See if you have a nail or screw in one of your tyres. That is what I found when I had a similar noise that I heard only at low speed.
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