Is your Mk6 a DSG or manual?

[GTREA]

My MKVI GTi is just a daily, and as such DSG preferred.

[SilvrFoxX]

I would say both... But short term more so. Look at it this way, if you had a manual and wanted to sell it, you either take a massive hit on a trade (as the dealer would not move it quickly hence will take a safety margin as they have a floorplan finance for holding stock) or wait to sell it privatey where demand isn't as great.

See, always takes an accountant to rationalise purchase decisions down to the dollar and cents

I'm an economic rationalist but I don't agree. If you were talking about a commodore, falcon or camry your view carries weight however for a sports car it is not the same

[Finance_Analyst]

I'm an economic rationalist but I don't agree. If you were talking about a commodore, falcon or camry your view carries weight however for a sports car it is not the same

On pure supply and demand, a manual will always have a smaller market - hence why BMW/Mercedes/Audi only do manuals on a special order basis. However, on the 2nd market, there will be one out of 30 who only want manual and you are in luck. What I am saying is that a dealer will pay less as it will be harder to move on average, or selling privately, this will take longer as the market is smaller. But there will be someone out there - just have to hope it is timed in line with when you actually sell it.

[SilvrFoxX]

Still a hypothesis based on logic, there are no stats that show a manual will sell less quickly or for a lower cost than an auto ( execpt possibly the cost of the DSG initially holds the price). Given the sample in this survey alone argues that the demand v Supply that the manual owners are no more disadvantaged.

I would also argue that most here will sell privately knowing a dealer will r@pe them senseless on a trade

[hooba]

On pure supply and demand, a manual will always have a smaller market - hence why BMW/Mercedes/Audi only do manuals on a special order basis. However, on the 2nd market, there will be one out of 30 who only want manual and you are in luck. What I am saying is that a dealer will pay less as it will be harder to move on average, or selling privately, this will take longer as the market is smaller. But there will be someone out there - just have to hope it is timed in line with when you actually sell it.

Go and apply your theory to the Alfa Romeo Selespeed / Manuals and see if it holds water. The 2nd hand market has the advantage of having witnessed the reliability / total cost of ownership associated with different options and factors it in appropriately.

Feel free to make your own judgement about the DSG.

[brimway]

Interestingly, the US don't get DSG option on their Golf R. It's manual or nothing, would be a very brave marketing move here in Australia

[Finance_Analyst]

Go and apply your theory to the Alfa Romeo Selespeed / Manuals and see if it holds water. The 2nd hand market has the advantage of having witnessed the reliability / total cost of ownership associated with different options and factors it in appropriately.

Feel free to make your own judgement about the DSG.

That in itself is a pretty flawed logic as Alfas have NO used market whatsoever - most dealers would probably not even touch them so it does not matter what transmission it is. Ever wonder why the last few remaining ED35s (i.e. one at Australs and Norris) are the manuals? Not saying they are better or worse, but they need to find that niche buyer who actually wants it.

[Njay]

The demand for manual is much greater in Europe compared to aus, for instance miltek doesn't make exhaust for the a5 dsg cause everyone has a manual but in aus u will never see a manual a5

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[SilvrFoxX]

That in itself is a pretty flawed logic as Alfas have NO used market whatsoever - most dealers would probably not even touch them so it does not matter what transmission it is. Ever wonder why the last few remaining ED35s (i.e. one at Australs and Norris) are the manuals? Not saying they are better or worse, but they need to find that niche buyer who actually wants it.

ED35 is not a good example, although a good car its price point and config make the R a better proposition. Also I would hazard a guess that a combination of broader economic factors and the enthusiast market is reaching saturation in this area

[Lucas_R]

To the discussion going on between SilvrFoxX and Finance_Analyst - even if the DSG was free (same price as the manual) i still wouldn't have chosen it. Put it simply, i wanted a manual transmission. Same with tippah and Tarmac etc. I don't care that the DSG is faster accelerating, does gear change farts etc etc.

The theory on manual cars being harder to move 2nd hand doesn't bother me and im not even thinking about it - i plan to keep my R for 6-8 years (if not longer). By this time, there will be a huge amount of DSG equipped vehicles for sale, and a smaller percentage of manuals up for grabs. For a buyer looking for a manual Golf R, my car will be mabye 1 of 20 in NSW, instead of 1 of 60 DSG's.

When i bought my Golf, i wasn't thinking about resale one bit. I was thinking....what options etc do I want in my brand new car for me to enjoy. If i was concerned about resale i would have purchased a white or blue R (most popular colours) in DSG (most popular gearbox). Instead, i chose my favourite colour (UG) with my preferred gearbox.

ED35 is not a good example, although a good car its price point and config make the R a better proposition. Also I would hazard a guess that a combination of broader economic factors and the enthusiast market is reaching saturation in this area

[Johnbu]

I own a GTI V DSG, as the wife can't drive manual.

Brilliant piece of technology and the beat out there.. However it's still missing the feeling you get driving a manual.

Get the manual if you can drive manual. If you can't, then DSG is no doubt the best transmission out there by far for you.

If you're concerned about resale, get a corolla. I don't think it makes any difference and would say manual would be easier to sell as the car gets older.

I also just paid $500 for the DSG service

I have a manual car, and have no prob driving it 56km to and from work in Melb

In summary, DSG is better in any measurable way, except for the fun factor.





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[Ryan_R]

I was channel surfing on YouTube earlier today (and for some reason it always suggests videos about VW Golf's) xD

Anyway, I actually got a bit jealous of the manual when watching this one:

...and then I got really jealous when I saw this one:

[ParaBul]

I was channel surfing on YouTube earlier today (and for some reason it always suggests videos about VW Golf's) xD

Anyway, I actually got a bit jealous of the manual when watching this one:

...and then I got really jealous when I saw this one:

Ryan, you need to come to Adelaide, and join us on a cruise through the hills.

[Ryan_R]

Hehe yeah - I've cruised every good twisty road in Vic within a 400km radius of my house

Even did the Great Alpine Rd loop in a day (about 9 hours 30, despite Google Maps claiming it would take 12 hours)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dtD-evFOVbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=05BPW4XcdmA

Videos are sped up

[Brian916]

DSG for a couple of reasons.

1. Resale. Car is a lease so I've got to maximise the return when I sell it in a few years (it will be replaced with another VW)

2. Drove both the manual and the DSG. Liked both, and if the DSG had been as bad as some journo's have stated, I would have had the manual and to hell with resale. DSG changes smoothly, quickly, and in the 'D' mode is extremely economical. I tend to use more revs than I need in manuals, so the DSG is saving me money!