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[gjws]

Why are people locking their kids in their car? They car can't be stolen without the key anyway.....

No but someone may steal the kids.........now that I think about it, that would save me a fortune!

[gjws]

But pressing the lock button twice so it disables the deadlock also disables the ultrasonic sensors too doesn't it?

That button you're talking about (on the B pillar) allows you to deadlock the car, whilst disabling the ultrasonic sensors AND disable the tilt/towing sensor.

Tested and you are 100% correct, a double lock disables deadlock. I've not tested if the ultrasonics were disabled but assume so.

[slipshot]

Why are people locking their kids in their car? They car can't be stolen without the key anyway.....

My thoughts exactly. Is that not a bit like saying 'I cannot believe the gas was turned on a lit by my kids who I locked in the house...'

I don;t think anyone really expects for you to lock kids in the car so I hardly think you can blame VW or anyone for having a live 12v feed when the car is parked and locked. As for a recall... I don't think that's going to happen...

[wai]

Why are people locking their kids in their car? They car can't be stolen without the key anyway.....

There are times when you have to leave children in the car. When you go to pay for your fuel, you do not want to have parents empty the car of all their kids, and march them into the servo to pay for fuel, then march them back out and get them all seated back in the car. It is not like you are leaving them (as some have) to play the pokies.

This is why when the car is locked, the dors should still be able to be opened from the inside if necessary, and all power outlets should also be switched off, particularly if the parents are smokers. They see their parents lighting up with the lighter and so try to imitate that. This is also why you don't let children play with a gas lighter.

So this has diverged somewhat, but it as far as the deadlock goes, people need to remember to double press the central locking remote, and hide the lighter away if the lighter and accessory sockets remain live. This should be able to be re-programmed by VW where it defaults to just normal locking and two presses deadlocks the car.

[Ryan_R]

I've never heard of this before (although I might've read about it agesssss ago in teh manual (and probablyl dismissed it thinking that it was part of the alarm option), but I can say that I've definately noticed that sometimes when I lock the car I heard a nice little thud (deadlocks), but other times it's a lot quieter - I sometimes hit lock twice (with a few seconds in between) just to be sure.


Re. kids in the car - can't they just hit the unlock button on the drivers door if they need to get out? It might be worth testing and informing them (depending on their age, etc).

[gjws]

Re. kids in the car - can't they just hit the unlock button on the drivers door if they need to get out? It might be worth testing and informing them (depending on their age, etc).

Nope, the internal unlock button is disabled as part of the deadlock process. Just have to make sure you do a double button press on the remote and it's all good.

[Corey_R]

Re. kids in the car - can't they just hit the unlock button on the drivers door if they need to get out? It might be worth testing and informing them (depending on their age, etc).

Not if it's deadlocked. That's the entire point!

[Ryan_R]

I can unlock the deadlocks on my house from both sides though

I just thought it was an anti-theft feature, not an anti-child one

[Corey_R]

You can only unlock the deadlock from the inside of your house with a key. If you can do it without using a key, then you haven't dead locked it.

So the example you use is a very good one. It's no different from a household dead lock.


And yes. It IS an anti-theft feature. It stops people from simply being able to smash the window and unlocking all the doors of your car.

[mhh]

Does anyone know if the automatic deadlocking feature can be disabled? I don't like it.

[Brendan_A]

Does anyone know if the automatic deadlocking feature can be disabled? I don't like it.

Just press your lock button on the remote twice and it won't be deadlocked.

[wai]

Does anyone know if the automatic deadlocking feature can be disabled? I don't like it.

As far as I can tell, no. VAG believe it is something we should have.

I don't like it either. If someone breaks in, by either smashing the glass or breaking the lock, there is not much point in stopping them from "opening" the door.

It is a bit like the automatic locking of the doors where when you get above 15 km/h (or something like that), the doors automatically lock. This is supposedly to stop you accidentally opening the doors with the car moving. I don't like that either. In fact, there were some cars that did the exact opposite of this. The doors locks opened when the car was travelling over a set speed and locked below that. This was to prevent things like bag snatches, but allowed rescuers open doors should you be in a accident.

At least the automatic locking can be disabled, but not the deadlock feature. The only way I know of is to press the remote central locking one more time. The indicators flash, but there is no beep. If you have an alarm and think you may not have pressed it a second time and you are pressing it for the third time, the alarm goes off and you have to press unlock to stop it, then press once listen for the locking beep, then press it one more time and make sure you can see the indicators.

It is s system re-programming task and so VAG needs to be made aware that this needs to be an option and not the default. If VAG are not contacted, they will do nothing. Then there is The Department of Infrastructure and Transport Homepage as it might just take a nudge from them.

[Corey_R]

It is a bit like the automatic locking of the doors where when you get above 15 km/h (or something like that), the doors automatically lock. This is supposedly to stop you accidentally opening the doors with the car moving. I don't like that either. In fact, there were some cars that did the exact opposite of this. The doors locks opened when the car was travelling over a set speed and locked below that. This was to prevent things like bag snatches, but allowed rescuers open doors should you be in a accident.

The doors automatically locking is able to be turned on and off in the Setup menu (last time I looked). On lesser cars without a setup menu, the dealer can adjust it.
It's got nothing to do with you not being able to accidently open the doors, cause you can still do that regardless. It's to do with bag snatchers, car jackers etc. Additionally, if you're in an accident, the doors automatically unlock too.

So it doesn't stop you from opening the doors at any time.
And doesn't prevent people helping you in case of an accident where you're not conscience to open the door yourself.
Therefore I'm not sure why people would be against it.

[Ryan_R]

Depends how often you intentionally pick people up I guess

[mfl]

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Therefore I'm not sure why people would be against it.

No that along on a Sunday afternoon, waiting at the lights on Cleveland St (near Redfern), the car in front me had their laptop stolen when two young kids ran up to the back of the car opened the rear hatch and took the laptop sitting on top of their bags.

Then not long after I was in Wollongong for work, had to visit a site with 2 locals. The Avis Commodore had the auto-locking enabled. Put the car in D and the doors locked, when you put the lever in P, the doors unlocked. The 2 locals freaked, that the doors locked automatically..... no accounting for peoples reactions, maybe Wollongong is just safer then driving through Redfern ?