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  • #46
    Originally posted by REXman View Post
    WRX (MY09 onwards as I have said) you have it listed as 5.9. Thats fine. I'll have a look for some sources.. this thing does a mid 13 quarter and this is fact and it does mid 5s 0-100.
    Mate, its no use posting obscure publications and drag strip videos ..... LOL ... it creates the wrong impression.

    The figures I have are as PUBLISHED by Motor and Wheels, are what an average person buying a stock standard car can expect to get out of it ....

    I agree and know for a fact that in the hands of skilled driver those times can be improved upon ... but then again not easily and necessarily repeatable over and over ...

    Spent years myself racing at the strip and my 400+HP 800kg FWD MK1 Golf could do 12.3s at 1200m above sea-level where 600hp Skylines and STIs battled to do 12.5s .... fact and I can sure dig up lots of figures and video to prove it ....

    Even my modded E36 M3 could do 13.5s easily and on the 1000km top speed runs easily do 280km/h where near stock STIs battled to break into the 13s .....

    That ricer heritage is shining through strong here .... I've raced against the WRXs etc for a long time and they aren't that special .... even a mates heavily modded 22B (1 of only 2 in South Africa at the time) couldn't touch the Golf once rolling .... he was so pissed about it he even tried his 2001 Yamaha R1 and that got beaten 40-220km/h by 2 car lenghts as well .... he ended up selling the 22B and got a 930 Turbo ....

    EDIT: and by the way, no figures off the net and/or video comparisons can 100% be relied upon because nobody knows whats been done to the cars in question. Somebody might claim its stock whereas on the other hand its not (seen that before) .... the major publications can however be relied upon to test as received from the manufacturer .... even tyre pressures change 400m times ... LOL
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
      Mate, its no use posting obscure publications and drag strip videos ..... LOL ... it creates the wrong impression.

      The figures I have are as PUBLISHED by Motor and Wheels, are what an average person buying a stock standard car can expect to get out of it ....

      I agree and know for a fact that in the hands of skilled driver those times can be improved upon ... but then again not easily and necessarily repeatable over and over ...

      Spent years myself racing at the strip and my 400+HP 800kg FWD MK1 Golf could do 12.3s at 1200m above sea-level where 600hp Skylines and STIs battled to do 12.5s .... fact and I can sure dig up lots of figures and video to prove it ....

      Even my modded E36 M3 could do 13.5s easily and on the 1000km top speed runs easily do 280km/h where near stock STIs battled to break into the 13s .....

      That ricer heritage is shining through strong here .... I've raced against the WRXs etc for a long time and they aren't that special .... even a mates heavily modded 22B (1 of only 2 in South Africa at the time) couldn't touch the Golf once rolling .... he was so pissed about it he even tried his 2001 Yamaha R1 and that got beaten 40-220km/h by 2 car lenghts as well .... he ended up selling the 22B and got a 930 Turbo ....

      EDIT: and by the way, no figures off the net and/or video comparisons can 100% be relied upon because nobody knows whats been done to the cars in question. Somebody might claim its stock whereas on the other hand its not (seen that before) .... the major publications can however be relied upon to test as received from the manufacturer .... even tyre pressures change 400m times ... LOL
      Whats wrong and obscure with the publications and videos I have posted? Why are they any different to what your using? I think I have included enough references to make and stand by my points. I even included a link to MOTOR's Bang For Buck article!

      You must be a lawyer or something (albeit a bad one), cause you are now talking about something else, and trying to switch points and go off topic. Not sure what all that 22B/GOLF MK1 modded etc stuff was about. All interesting stuff, but irrelavant cause I thought we were talking about the WRX and its times. And also the Ralliart. I answered you directly. I provided the back up in response to your criticism of my comments.

      So I stand by my original comments, and have backed them up both from my own, MOTOR's and many others, personal experience.

      And at this point in the discussion, posting video's and talking about times etc.. "creates the wrong impression?" What does that even mean in this discussion?

      I would keep going but I just realised your the guy who believes the Tiguan is all sports.
      Last edited by REXman; 20-06-2010, 03:14 PM. Reason: And at this point
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      • #48
        Anyway's, to the OP, looking at 3 important aspects of a car (Exterior, Interior, Performance) the WRX is the better car performance wise, no questions. The GOLF is the better car Interior wise (no questions there either). But its up to you what you think looks best. But between the GOLF and Ralliart only, just consider If having a better car is worth the $10000.

        And make sure you test drive them!!

        Cheers.
        2010 MY11 GOLF R - 5DR | DSG | RISING BLUE | DYNAUDIO + ACC + BLUETOOTH + 19s + RNS510 |

        2017 MY17 TIGUAN HIGHLINE - 5DR | DSG | PEARL BLACK | SUNROOF + DAP |

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        • #49
          REXman and Sharkie, am I going to have to send you boys to opposite corners of the forums? Place nice okay

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          • #50
            I took the Ralliart for the rest drive yesterday and like many of the people in this thread had said. They car is nowhere near as refined as the GTI. I have to give the car credit, it offers alot of standard kit for the money, and when I drove it, there was no rattels or creaks from the plasticy interior.

            However the moment you open the door, you can just feel its a big step down. The doors feel hollow and close with a clang, instead of the thud like in the GTI.

            You sit in the seats and they are no where near as supportive or as well done as the GTI's.

            The interior as has been said, is a big step down. However it was not AS BAD as I thought it would be.

            The biggest problem I had was with the ride, engine and gearbox. It is a DSG box, but omg... its so rough! The ride felt not as solid as the GTI. Its hard to describe. It has a firm setup, but you feel disconnected from the car.

            And the engine sounds pretty average.

            So all in all. You do get alot of kit for your money. But Im going to be sticking with my GTI.


            Now I just need to wait for the dealer to call me.... it arrived a week ago today...
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            • #51
              Originally posted by sharkablue View Post
              I took the Ralliart for the rest drive yesterday and like many of the people in this thread had said. They car is nowhere near as refined as the GTI. I have to give the car credit, it offers alot of standard kit for the money, and when I drove it, there was no rattels or creaks from the plasticy interior.

              However the moment you open the door, you can just feel its a big step down. The doors feel hollow and close with a clang, instead of the thud like in the GTI.

              You sit in the seats and they are no where near as supportive or as well done as the GTI's.

              The interior as has been said, is a big step down. However it was not AS BAD as I thought it would be.

              The biggest problem I had was with the ride, engine and gearbox. It is a DSG box, but omg... its so rough! The ride felt not as solid as the GTI. Its hard to describe. It has a firm setup, but you feel disconnected from the car.

              And the engine sounds pretty average.

              So all in all. You do get alot of kit for your money. But Im going to be sticking with my GTI.


              Now I just need to wait for the dealer to call me.... it arrived a week ago today...

              You're very charitable. When my wife and I test drove it, we got out and the sales rep came over and asked us what we thought, my wife just turned away and pretended to be looking at something leaving me to try to come up with something nice to say about it - the best I could manage was 'its a nice colour'
              Its here!

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