Re: What oil is delivered from the Factory for the new MK6 GTI

[jacs]

dealer at cambelltown (western sydney)

[jacs]

That's great but why?? Do we need to RTFM again?

i couldnt find anything in TFM, but the tech reckons its a running in oil..................it would be nice to get something from VWA

[Candyman]

Frankly I take advice from any dealer with a grain of salt

They have often failed to find basic features on the R that they should know about

Having said that, my R will run on factory oil and get serviced per VW manual, every 15k.

I have also been told by Pulse Racing who tuned my XT (the first 06 done by Paul) that factory oil should be left in the engine until recommended change.

I never track the cars, I don't drive them beyond 2/3rds and I maintain them well.

I have 6 years warranty.

Never had any issues at all re. oil being changed at manufacturers recommended interval on the dozens of both private and company vehicles I have owned.

[Diesel_vert]

i couldnt find anything in TFM, but the tech reckons its a running in oil..................it would be nice to get something from VWA

The fact of the matter is, no one (apart from the engineers and factory workers on the floor in Germany) appears to know precisely what the first-fill is, nor cannot say what it is with confidence. And no one with any real authority (e.g. the engineers in Germany et. al.) would tell you, me, or anyone else what goes into these engines - simply because they don't have to.

However, logic would suggest that the first-fill is a synthetic oil, since it's anticipated that it would not be drained until the first service, which occurs at 15 000 km or 1 year. Break-in oils are usually drained well before that sort of mileage and duration.

Also, Castrol make a big song & dance about how their 504/507 oils (which are synthetic) are used as first-fill at Volkswagen.

[Mi16 Man]

Who wants to pay for me to take a trip to Wolfsburg?

I'll ask them, on the factory floor.....and get pics as evidence.

[Diesel_vert]

Haha, if you did that, it would result in the closure of thousands of VW forum threads (re: factory-fill oil) right around the world.

[Candyman]

Who wants to pay for me to take a trip to Wolfsburg?

I'll ask them, on the factory floor.....and get pics as evidence.

You would get multiple answers.

[MIRSAD]

You would get multiple answers.

Not multiple but one universal answer like this one from VW Australia website:

"Oil
A special high quality multigrade oil is put into the engine at the factory. Oil is the vital lubricant in your vehicles engine that reduces the friction between..."

[Candyman]

No one has asked so who knows. Hence, multiple answers. Affiliations with oil companies change like VW changes its promo material

[anglo_dude]

Affiliations with oil companies change like VW changes its promo material

What you mean every 3 years??

I see the golf brochure available to download hasn't changed in years and still has the Bluetooth and MDI as options...

[MIRSAD]

"official" answer given by VW America....

"Reference # 811003016

Dear Sir:

Thank you for contacting Volkswagen. I understand you want to know what type of engine oil was factory filled in your 2011 GTI, if a “break-in” additive was used, and when Volkswagen recommends having the first oil change performed. I appreciate the opportunity to respond.

Your GTI’s engine was factory filled with synthetic oil, which met Volkswagen’s oil quality standards and had a viscosity grade of SAE 5W-40. This information can be found on page 249 of your Owner’s Manual. I regret I do not have information regarding what brand this oil was used to fill your GTI.

Because of the advances in technology, and the benefits of using synthetic oil, break-in additives were not used for your GTI. For this reason Volkswagen recommends having the first oil change performed at one year, or 10,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

....

Sincerely,
Rebekah B.
Customer CARE Advocate"

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[Candyman]

So still no answer, the hunt continues

Is there a "rolls eyes" emoticon ?

[Mi16 Man]

So still no answer, the hunt continues

Is there a "rolls eyes" emoticon ?

Best answer, so far......

We can strike out mineral oil then. But, 5W40? I thought best was a 30 weight.... ?

[Candyman]

Oh wait, no R's sold in the USA yet

So, do we have more than one answer

Add the country of sale to the equation as well.

[Diesel_vert]

The impression I get from the North American forums is that everyone sticks with 502/505 oils. Use of 504/507 oils would be the exception rather than the rule over there. I'm not even sure if their owner's manuals make any mention of 504/507 oils.